Superman vs Thor: fist fight · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Speed is equalized btw.
I know you know that already. So you wanna BZ and stick to your claim that Thor gets crushed because Supes is far above him and has 0 chances of winning?

Nah, I'm just going to enjoy how much you much reach before posting a single relevant fight or scan.

"Thor can do anything Superman can, because why not?"

Hey h1a8—lite, how are you?

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by abhilegend
What skill advantage? Superman has actually fought and beaten martial artists like Kobra before.
And no, he doesn't wins a single fight here. Let alone a majority.
How in earth would Thor beat Superman if speed is not equalized?

I could try and talk to you. I could talk about even Cap has been impressed with Thor's fighting ability or was in awe of it. I could post any number of panels consistently showing Thor's fighting ability mentioned and showed numerous times.

I could argue why Thor is in the same strength tier as Superman. So I don't see Supes outmuscling him with ease.

I could do these things but I'm honestly not going to waste my time. Based on our previous encounters nothing is going to change. I won't really add anything that hasn't been show in anyone of the many previous Thor vs Superman fights. I mean you could go to the one thread where's it is them without powers, with powers, bloodlusted, blindfoled, arm-wrestling, deadlifting, striking and see the same arguments I will make. And I've already seen the arguments/scans you're going to use. So why put in effort I know will fall on deaf ears. Even if you are wrong or I am wrong nothing we could do in the next few exchanges in this thread is going to change our minds.

So I will just say if you want my general opinion on Superman vs Thor, which I feel is close to most other people's general perception of Thor vs Supes, go back my previous post in this thread or any number of others.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

I've changed my mind.

Anointed One was obviously mystical.

He was a warrior herald, who KOed/killed Superman.

Abhi was right.

Now, what was this thread about again?

Oh yeah, a mystical warrior herald vs Supes....

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Newjak
I could try and talk to you. I could talk about even Cap has been impressed with Thor's fighting ability or was in awe of it. I could post any number of panels consistently showing Thor's fighting ability mentioned and showed numerous times.

So nothing but statements? How about Thor beating an equal or someone stronger than him via skills?

I could argue why Thor is in the same strength tier as Superman. So I don't see Supes outmuscling him with ease.

That you can't. Nope, not even in question after all these years.

I could do these things but I'm honestly not going to waste my time. Based on our previous encounters nothing is going to change. I won't really add anything that hasn't been show in anyone of the many previous Thor vs Superman fights. I mean you could go to the one thread where's it is them without powers, with powers, bloodlusted, blindfoled, arm-wrestling, deadlifting, striking and see the same arguments I will make. And I've already seen the arguments/scans you're going to use. So why put in effort I know will fall on deaf ears. Even if you are wrong or I am wrong nothing we could do in the next few exchanges in this thread is going to change our minds.

But I'm right and you're wrong. I have actual proofs and scans of what I say.

You don't. If I say Superman is stronger by a huge margin, I can back that claim up. All you can do is ignore it.

So I will just say if you want my general opinion on Superman vs Thor, which I feel is close to most other people's general perception of Thor vs Supes, go back my previous post in this thread or any number of others.

You know what? Just post a fight where Thor beats someone even close to Superman in strength and durability via just strength and skill clearly. No mjolnir.

Just one. We'll take it from there.

And nobody thinks Thor can take a majority over superman in h2h. Even celey doesn't thinks that.

Maybe you're still stuck to 2008 Era KMC where Thor and Silver Surfer can beat Superman 9/10 in a standard fight?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I've changed my mind.
Anointed One was obviously mystical.
He was a warrior herald, who KOed/killed Superman.
Abhi was right.
Now, what was this thread about again?
Oh yeah, a mystical warrior herald vs Supes....

Who can't use magical attacks to weaken Superman.

Otherwise Captain Marvel would win everytime against Superman.

The Nuul Senior Member

Superman would beat Galactus in a slugfest. Big G just ain't strong or durable enough. Supes even shit stomps Big G in a normal straight up fight.

Superman stomps here.

Did I do this right?

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by abhilegend

And nobody thinks Thor can take a majority over superman in h2h. Even celey doesn't thinks that.
Maybe you're still stuck to 2008 Era KMC where Thor and Silver Surfer can beat Superman 9/10 in a standard fight?

I will just ignore the rest as I've already said those arguments have been done to death in any of the previous Superman vs Thor scenarios.

I'm just clarifying for you my stance. I've always though Thor and Superman were a close fight. I think I said 5.5/10 for Thor once. Just to show how close I thought them fighting with all their abilities were.

And I've said numerous times in previous threads if Thor is not allowed to use his powers and is forced in to a H2H scenario with Superman and their speed is not equalized that Superman is winning that scenario and THor would be luck to win even 2 if he could. I think similar in threads in the past I said Thor wouldn't even win one.

If their speed is equalized I think Thor wins the majority in that scenario.

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by Newjak
I will just ignore the rest as I've already said those arguments have been done to death in any of the previous Superman vs Thor scenarios.
I'm just clarifying for you my stance. I've always though Thor and Superman were a close fight. I think I said 5.5/10 for Thor once. Just to show how close I thought them fighting with all their abilities were.
And I've said numerous times in previous threads if Thor is not allowed to use his powers and is forced in to a H2H scenario with Superman and their speed is not equalized that Superman is winning that scenario and THor would be luck to win even 2 if he could. I think similar in threads in the past I said Thor wouldn't even win one.
If their speed is equalized I think Thor wins the majority in that scenario.

Agreed

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who can't use magical attacks to weaken Superman.
Otherwise Captain Marvel would win everytime against Superman.

You've talked yourself into a corner again. I thought mystical beings were "inherently more dangerous to Superman?" 😂

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by abhilegend
It just shows he is an alien with mystical background.
The writer himself compared him to Doomsday and his only showings are stomping Flash, beating Superman and losing to a hugely amped Genmanae.
AO was Above Herald level by those showings.

I knew you were loading up for that sorry sap whiney fanboy excuse, "He is above herald, WWAHHHH!" You have no shame whatsoever. Everyone not named Abby understand Superman got beat down, plain and simple. How obsessed are you that you can't admit the truth?

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by Delta1938
Calm down stud. It's just the Internet.

What, you want me to stop embarrassing you in front of your soros? Not a chance.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Newjak
I will just ignore the rest as I've already said those arguments have been done to death in any of the previous Superman vs Thor scenarios.
I'm just clarifying for you my stance. I've always though Thor and Superman were a close fight. I think I said 5.5/10 for Thor once. Just to show how close I thought them fighting with all their abilities were.
And I've said numerous times in previous threads if Thor is not allowed to use his powers and is forced in to a H2H scenario with Superman and their speed is not equalized that Superman is winning that scenario and THor would be luck to win even 2 if he could. I think similar in threads in the past I said Thor wouldn't even win one.
If their speed is equalized I think Thor wins the majority in that scenario.

Just because they are done to death doesn't means you can't be wrong.

You said three things, Thor is more skilled, in same strength class as superman and wins a majority here.

Post some actual wins for Thor using his skills against heralds.

Post some actual strength feats of Thor against heralds.

Who has he beaten in h2h to get the impression he can beat Superman in h2h? Count Nefaria? Gladiator? Hyperion? Heck, I'll even count wonder man if he has ever beaten him in h2h.

I can post dozens of fights Superman wins against heralds h2h. You can't even post one?

Also lol @ "This is only my stance".

How does Thor only wins 5.5/10 with Mjolnir if he can get 2/10 even without it?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
You've talked yourself into a corner again. I thought mystical beings were "inherently more dangerous to Superman?" 😂

Yes, they are.

Superman still beats the shit out of them. Isn't that super?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What, you want me to stop embarrassing you in front of your soros? Not a chance.

Calm down cheerleader.

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just because they are done to death doesn't means you can't be wrong.
You said three things, Thor is more skilled, in same strength class as superman and wins a majority here.
Post some actual wins for Thor using his skills against heralds.
Post some actual strength feats of Thor against heralds.
Who has he beaten in h2h to get the impression he can beat Superman in h2h? Count Nefaria? Gladiator? Hyperion? Heck, I'll even count wonder man if he has ever beaten him in h2h.
I can post dozens of fights Superman wins against heralds h2h. You can't even post one?
Also lol @ "This is only my stance".
How does Thor only wins 5.5/10 with Mjolnir if he can get 2/10 even without it?

Post ONE fight under the stips, that being Superman beating a herald with no super speed or eye beams. What, cat got your scans? Apparently you don't understand the stips even after several people explained it to you.

Blue Area Vet Restricted

Originally posted by abhilegend
Calm down cheerleader.

Taking up for your big sis? She thinks I'm a stud.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Post ONE fight under the stips, that being Superman beating a herald with no super speed or eye beams. What, cat got your scans? Apparently you don't understand the stips even after several people explained it to you.

Sure.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar4.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar5.jpg

What say you?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Taking up for your big sis? She thinks I'm a stud.

That'd be funny if I had a sister.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by abhilegend
I said I miscounted and misplaced the showings.
Learn to read.
This isn't.
This is. Orion was totally limp in one backhand along with J'onn.
Getting up doesn't means you are not koed. How many times are you going to lie about it?
No, he didn't. AO wasn't a Herald level by any standard.
So, he got beat up by someone less than Herald level as he has lost to a Herald? I will ask for AO losing to a Herald. Thor needs lightning to pull these things off. Superman while dying beat Doomsday to death in a few moments while before Doomsday was laughing at him and Superman wasn't able to even hurt him.
That's the difference between Thor and Superman.
Eh, no. It's ambiguous either way.
Yes. It's a lowball to use a one off character to use in such an argument. How do you compare AO with any Herald?
When nobody in the league could?
😆
At this point you're just using "Why not" without any reasoning whatsoever.
Post a similar showing for Thor where he endured something which other class 100 characters couldn't. Until then you're just BSing.

I already accepted your concession on that matter even though most here know you tried to get one past us again. What? I hope you didn't think I was not going to double check you. I mean come on, you have a reputation for half truths.

Lol.. So now you changed your stance about the first one not being a one-shot? Concession accepted once again.

Now for the 2nd Orion encounter. Here it is page for page including the one you conveniently left out.
http://s1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/?action=view&current=dw_jla14.jpg
http://s1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/?action=view&current=dw_jla15.jpg

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/dw_jla16.jpg

Now how are you going to tell me that's a phukkin one-shot ko? Gonna wait for you to admit your lie again.

Lol what? Are you telling me AO is below herald or above? If it's the latter, I dare you to make Thanos vs AO thread.

Durok would eat up many heralds like he did Thor and Surfer. In their first encounter, Thor conceded that he was physically more powerful. Yet in their next encounter, he overpowered him before the kill shot. Comics...

Burden of proof is in you. You're the one making a specific claim. Or you could just accept that he's just a powerful alien who beat Clark to death.

Lowball because he beat Superman? Wow.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I already accepted your concession on that matter even though most here know you tried to get one past us again. What? I hope you didn't think I was not going to double check you. I mean come on, you have a reputation for half truths.

Hey there quanchi.

And yes, people can Misplace similar showings. It happens.

Look at you, so happy though.

Lol.. So now you changed your stance about the first one not being a one-shot? Concession accepted once again.

I never said it was a oneshot to begin with. Hey again quanchi.

Now for the 2nd Orion encounter. Here it is page for page including the one you conveniently left out.
http://s1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/?action=view&current=dw_jla14.jpg
http://s1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/?action=view&current=dw_jla15.jpg

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x402/galanpics/dw_jla16.jpg
Now how are you going to tell me that's a phukkin one-shot ko? Gonna wait for you to admit your lie again.

If you're just going to post meaningless scans and post rhetoric questions, don't stop.

Yes, it's a oneshot KO to both J'onn and a Orion. Orion was visibly out when DO was smashing his head in.

Cry more.

Lol what? Are you telling me AO is below herald or above? If it's the latter, I dare you to make Thanos vs AO thread.

Above Herald level. That's cute how you want to randomly use Thanos against him.

Durok would eat up many heralds like he did Thor and Surfer. In their first encounter, Thor conceded that he was physically more powerful. Yet in their next encounter, he overpowered him before the kill shot. Comics...

Not by his fists. And the writer specified in an interview that Thor godblasted him after an adrenaline surge that made him able to match Durok for some time.

Superman just went ahead and killed Doomsday with his bare hands.

Burden of proof is in you. You're the one making a specific claim. Or you could just accept that he's just a powerful alien who beat Clark to death.

He didn't kill Superman. And he was likened to Doomsday by Kelly.

It's a total meaningless scenario to compare with since we don't know how strong he exactly was.

Lowball because he beat Superman? Wow.

Yes, unless you know how he stacks against Thor by some miracle?

Why don't you post Thor knocking out someone in a fight who is remotely on Superman's level with his fists? Nefaria? Gladiator? Hyperion? Heck, even Wonder Man qualifies.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

I will start.

Thor vs Count Nefaria.

Ok, not fair as many people think he is above herald level although at least Kurt Busiek said Superman was stronger than Nefaria.

http://comicboards.com/php/show.php?msg=comicbattles-2007021901220800&search=nefaria&layout=thread

But then again even a clone of Count Was beating the shit out of Thor from Avengers 400.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24000294/Avengers400-17.jpg.html

Ok, not count nefaria. Maybe Gladiator?

Thor vs Gladiator, from Fantastic Four #339:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsGladiator01FF339.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsGladiator02.jpg

Masterson Thor vs Gladiator, from Thor #445:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator01445.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator04.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/MastersonThorvsGladiator05.jpg

Uh, no? Thor needed Mjolnir and energy blasts to put Gladiator down while going all out? Ok, maybe Hyperion?

Thor vs Hyperion, from Avengers #70:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHyperion01Avengers070.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHyperion02.jpg

Thor vs Hyperion again, from Thor #280:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHyperion03280.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsHyperion04.jpg

Oh, no all out Thor can only stagger Hyperion with a mjolnir throw and needed Mjolnir to beat him? OK, how about Wonder Man? Thor must've beaten Wonder Man in h2h at least once?

Guess not. Needed mjolnir again.

And this chump beats Superman in h2h? Mind you I've picked all this from Thor's respect thread itself.

Better luck next time chump.