Superman vs Thor: fist fight

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sure.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar4.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesvsEclipsoLar5.jpg

What say you?

That'd be funny if I had a sister.

Lol, what the hell is this supposed to be?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Lol, what the hell is this supposed to be?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman beating a Herald h2h as you asked. Valor was even stronger than Superman at that point.

I'm only seeing one panel involving Batman and Wonderwoman. So in whatever you posted, what happened to Superman's speed and eye beams?

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm only seeing one panel involving Batman and Wonderwoman. So in whatever you posted, what happened to Superman's speed and eye beams?

Nevermind, I see it now. I should have known you'd use this as an opportunity to troll. Let me say this again in a more descriptive manner. Show me Superman being another herald in which he was GIMPED by having no access to his super speed or his heat ray vision. You can't, nor can you prove that no super speed between those two heralds wasn't used. I guess you believe it made sense to both of them to slow things down to a crawl and not gain an advantage on the other, is that is?

The stips of this match is, pure hand to hand, no super attributes other than strength, durability and skill. For Thor is means no magic, no weapon and no measure of super human reflexes, perception or speed. For Superman, no EP and no SUPER speed. Superman hasn't been put under these conditions, the closest thing would be when he has been totally depowered to human form. Thor on the other hand has fought without Mjolnir plenty times.

PS- LOL at how Superman is about to suffocate!! Surfer and Thor don't have that problem!

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
I'm only seeing one panel involving Batman and Wonderwoman. So in whatever you posted, what happened to Superman's speed and eye beams?

He didn't use them. Just h2h and he wrecked Valor like whoa.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Nevermind, I see it now. I should have known you'd use this as an opportunity to troll. Let me say this again in a more descriptive manner. Show me Superman being another herald in which he was GIMPED by having no access to his super speed or his heat ray vision. You can't, nor can you prove that no super speed between those two heralds wasn't used. I guess you believe it made sense to both of them to slow things down to a crawl and not gain an advantage on the other, is that is?

The stips of this match is, pure hand to hand, no super attributes other than strength, durability and skill. For Thor is means no magic, no weapon and no measure of super human reflexes, perception or speed. For Superman, no EP and no SUPER speed. Superman hasn't been put under these conditions, the closest thing would be when he has been totally depowered to human form. Thor on the other hand has fought without Mjolnir plenty times.

PS- LOL at how Superman is about to suffocate!! Surfer and Thor don't have that problem!

Just like he didn't use it on Valor. Simply beat him into unconsciousness with his strength and skill.

At this point you're simply trolling.

But since you're asking, here is Superman in body of Kobra beating Kobra in Batman's body. After Kobra suckerattacked Superman in Kobra's body.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesKobra1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesKobra2.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesKobra3.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/SupesKobra4.jpg

Batman is stronger than Kobra and Kobra is himself a master of every martial arts known to man. There you go, Superman beats someone stronger than him with just skills who is an actual MA.

Kobra has beaten Batman in h2h BTW.

The thing is, in most of the h2h scans I posted, he was fighting people in his class - Kryptonians, Zod, Ultraman etc.

So even if he was using superspeed - it's cancelled out by them ALSO possessing superspeed, surely?

And I have posted multiple instances of him using pressure points.

Nothing of those is enough apparently. Even when Superman is not using speed, he is using it somehow.

Next demand from BAV: Post Superman beating someone without eyes, hands or feet. Nothing counts.

I mean 24 pages and not a single win from Thor where he beat a Herald in h2h.

This is just lulzworthy at this point.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just because they are done to death doesn't means you can't be wrong.

You said three things, Thor is more skilled, in same strength class as superman and wins a majority here.

Post some actual wins for Thor using his skills against heralds.

Post some actual strength feats of Thor against heralds.

Who has he beaten in h2h to get the impression he can beat Superman in h2h? Count Nefaria? Gladiator? Hyperion? Heck, I'll even count wonder man if he has ever beaten him in h2h.

I can post dozens of fights Superman wins against heralds h2h. You can't even post one?

Also lol @ "This is only my stance".

How does Thor only wins 5.5/10 with Mjolnir if he can get 2/10 even without it?

I'm saying if you want to see evidence just go to any previous Thor/Superman fight. So basically if you haven't been convinced in any of those threads by now why waste effort on something I know isn't going to change either your opinion or mine.

Also to clarify for you. I can give Thor 5.5 with the hammer against Superman in an all powers fight and give him the majority here without it because the stipulations of the fight are different. Because this is a H2H fight, with no other powers, and with speed equalized, which negates one of Superman's biggest advantages against Thor imo. And like I said if speed weren't equalized I don't think Thor would likely win one in a H2H fight Superman.

Of course this the exact same thing I said in my previous posts in this thread. And in my previous posts in other Superman vs Thor threads. So like I said Abhi why waste the time on something that is futile at best and annoying at worst.

Originally posted by Newjak
You're having trouble reading what I'm saying Abhi.

No, I'm not.

I'm saying if you want to see evidence just go to any previous Thor/Superman fight. So basically if you haven't been convinced in any of those threads by now why waste effort on something I know isn't going to change either your opinion or mine.

Why would I? This is the same site which gives Surfer 9/10 against Superman. You have specifically argued against Superman being a high Herald. If Thor can beat Superman without even his hammer, we should drop Superman into mid Herald category, wouldn't you say?

I mean if you're so convinced about Thor/Superman from previous threads why don't you show me those arguments?

Also to clarify for you. I can give Thor 5.5 with the hammer against Superman in an all powers fight and give him the majority here without it because the stipulations of the fight are different.

On what basis exactly? I can see someone giving Thor a majority in all powers fights. Here? It doesn't makes any sense.

Because this is a H2H fight, with no other powers, and with speed equalized, which negates one of Superman's biggest advantages against Thor imo.

Superman's biggest advantage is his huge strength advantage against Thor. He doesn't needs his speed to beat the shit out of Thor.

And like I said if speed weren't equalized I don't think Thor would likely win one in a H2H fight Superman.

How would he win that one fight exactly? By punching air? How many wins you will give to Thor against Flash with speed not equalized?

Of course this the exact same thing I said in my previous posts in this thread. And in my previous posts in other Superman vs Thor threads. So like I said Abhi why waste the time on something that is futile at best and annoying at worst.

You can say something a million times and it wouldn't be true without anything backing it up.

Either show some scans or some arguments which have convinced you that Thor wins majority here. Otherwise Superman pulls an Earth Man and oneshots Thor.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16361005/action_863-13.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16361006/action_863-15.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16361007/action_863-18.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16361008/action_863-19.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16361009/action_863-21.jpg.html

Keep in mind, Earth man had the powers of entire LOSH and three class 100 characters aka Ultra Boy, Blok and Night Girl and just shrugged off attacks from entire Legion and Superman included.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The thing is, in most of the h2h scans I posted, he was fighting people in his class - Kryptonians, Zod, Ultraman etc.

So even if he was using superspeed - it's cancelled out by them ALSO possessing superspeed, surely?

And I have posted multiple instances of him using pressure points.

How many are you giving Superman in this match?

Wait a minute.

Newjak actually argued against Superman being a high herald.

If this is true I don't have the words to describe how insane that assesment is.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Wait a minute.

Newjak actually argued against Superman being a high herald.

If this is true I don't have the words to describe how insane that assesment is.

Heck I wouldn't be surprised if there were comments I made before that would make my current self cringe.

Originally posted by Newjak
If I did argue that I have definitely since changed my mind and Superman is definitely a high herald.

Heck I wouldn't be surprised if there were comments I made before that would make my current self cringe.

NO EXCUSES!!!

😠

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]NO EXCUSES!!!

😠 [/B]

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Wait a minute.

Newjak actually argued against Superman being a high herald.

If this is true I don't have the words to describe how insane that assesment is.

He's low meta. 😠

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Wait a minute.

Newjak actually argued against Superman being a high herald.

If this is true I don't have the words to describe how insane that assesment is.

Well lets look at SS I'm not sure on the entire feat but in a picosecond he has calculated the entire size weight abilities of an army or armarda something like that easily and He travels really fast really fast.
The point is like I said from the begining say what you will about PC Supes he was only a beast when he needed to be to win a match. The fact is every power he could produce and has SS can reproduce it and do more things.
If Supes tries to lure him to a sun SS could change the sun into a red sun. If Supes tried to T-VO SS, Silver Surfe removes Supes mind from body. If Superman wants to Vibrate Silver Surfer breaks the bonds holding his atoms together thus sprinkling Supes body across the universe. If Supes tries to Speedblitz him SS makes a K-Nite or red sun aura(He would know about them because of cosmic awarness) around himself. Supes puts him in another reality or time SS uses his powers to get back and then SS could do the same to Supes but instead teleports him into a Red Sun.
There is no evidence that Superman will be leaps and bounds above him in this fight only the idea that PC Supes being PC Supes is alot faster with no real backing behind it.
Like I said I know what kind of beast PC Supes was but when it is hard to argue a quick victory other than the hope he can put him down in one punch faster than the guy with no real backing and the other guy has access to everyway inmaginable on how to beat you it is hard to argue the majority for them.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=7154277&highlight=Surfer+PC+Supes+picosecond#post7154277

Superman is definitely not high Herald as per 'jak.
www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=447826&pagenumber=1

These are arguments he wants me to see apparently.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes. Some gems from Newjak.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=7154277&highlight=Surfer+PC+Supes+picosecond#post7154277

Superman is definitely not high Herald as per 'jak.
www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=447826&pagenumber=1

These are arguments he wants me to see apparently.

Not actually reading what I'm saying and going off and posting tid bits from unrelated topics to the current one. 🙄

Originally posted by Newjak
Like I said I've posted cringe worthy stuff. I find this funny that this somehow is your way of trying to invalidating me though.

Not actually reading what I'm saying and going off and posting tid bits from unrelated topics to the current one. 🙄

In one post you're ridiculing me for going through previous threads and showing what kind of arguments there were back in the day.

Make up your mind.

Originally posted by carver9
He's low meta. 😠

I can't wait for General Boardwalker to DESTROY you in a Battlezone!

That is if you have the courage to face him!