Anchor Babies

Funny liberala having a huge problem with the term, but Killing them is ok.

Never short on Irony with Libby's.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny liberala having a huge problem with the term, but Killing them is ok.

Never short on Irony with Libby's.

Before people jump down this guy's throat about how he said killing them is okay, minorities are disproportionately targeted for abortion campaigns AND minorities destroy their developing babies far more often than their white peers.

"Hispanic women have a much higher abortion rate than white women, but their rate is not so high as that of black women."

http://www.guttmacher.org/media/nr/prabort2.html

Non-white immigrants make up the majority of illegal immigrants (look at the 2012 data).
http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845

The conclusion is that liberals are okay with killing minority babies...except when it comes to "anchor babies."

So, yeah, here is another hipocrasy situation.

But a liberal would say that they think it is okay for illegal immigrants to kill their developing babies and that they don't oppose it. That ends this discussion for this thread, imo. There's nothing left to discuss.

The thing is, abortion isn't the same as killing babies, and one of the primary predictors of abortion rates is access to other birth control, which liberals are in favor of. Areas without much birth control are where you'll see the highest abortion rates.

Originally posted by Q99
The thing is, abortion isn't the same as killing babies,

To me it is. I don't buy into the euphemistic "fetus" argument that liberals try to make.

Whether or not it is murder is already decided by Roe v. Wade: its not murder.

Originally posted by Q99
...and one of the primary predictors of abortion rates is access to other birth control, which liberals are in favor of. Areas without much birth control are where you'll see the highest abortion rates.

That makes a whole lot of sense. It is very logical. But, do you have a citation for that?

How do you account for the disproportionate use of abortion by minorities in the US? People from the black community that are against the abortion rates (not abortion, but how much abortion is used by the black community) seem to think they have research that shows that minorities are disproportionately targeted (advertised to).

By the way, I'm all about access to contraceptives and actual sex education (meaning, abstinence should be mentioned very briefly as the best method on paper to prevent STDs and pregnancy but that it really doesn't work but for a very few select stubborn people).

On the actual topic. Yeah we don't need to keep the anchor baby thing anymore. There are statues in the constitution to get rid of this already but it won't get used because they want to buy votes so...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny liberala having a huge problem with the term, but Killing them is ok.

Never short on Irony with Libby's.

Well shit, what else are we liberals supposed to do? Moloch is a demanding master. In return for our dark powers of hyperbole and mastery over mainstream media, Moloch requires a constant supply of babies.

if we are going to be technical abortion isnt killing babies, just the fetues

to kill a baby is to kill the newborn after it has left the mothers body
there was a case where a man stabbed a woman in labour just before she pushed the baby out of her womb, the feet where out when the stabbing occured, he wasnt tried for murder due to the technicality

Personally, I think it's a perfectly American thing to allow it.

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free." comes to mind.

We're a nation with a long history of accepting those in need, and I don't want to change that. It's part of our national character.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Funny liberala having a huge problem with the term,

Because it's disparaging and rooted in racism. Everyone should have a problem with that, not just your imagined demon "liberals".

Originally posted by dadudemon

The conclusion is that liberals are okay with killing minority babies...except when it comes to "anchor babies."

So, yeah, here is another hipocrasy situation.

But a liberal would say that they think it is okay for illegal immigrants to kill their developing babies and that they don't oppose it. That ends this discussion for this thread, imo. There's nothing left to discuss.

There is left to discuss that you called it "hipocrasy" (sic) even though you know the actual argument that liberals make, which is not hypocritical...

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Originally posted by Robtard
Because it's disparaging and rooted in racism. Everyone should have a problem with that, not just your imagined demon "liberals".

Its not racism. Nice try though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
There is left to discuss that you called it "hipocrasy" (sic) even though you know the actual argument that liberals make, which is not hypocritical...

Just because I'm good at understanding and capturing both sides without using a strawman does not mean I buy into one side or the other.

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So, no, there is no room left for discussion. I provided the right-wing justification and the left-wing justification. They cancel each other out and there is nothing left to discuss.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Just because I'm good at understanding and capturing both sides without using a strawman does not mean I buy into one side or the other.

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So, no, there is no room left for discussion. I provided the right-wing justification and the left-wing justification. They cancel each other out and there is nothing left to discuss.

Wow.. pwnd him.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Just because I'm good at understanding and capturing both sides without using a strawman does not mean I buy into one side or the other.

👆

So, no, there is no room left for discussion. I provided the right-wing justification and the left-wing justification. They cancel each other out and there is nothing left to discuss.

And yet, here are people discussing things, almost like your delusions don't affect reality....

Like you said the left wing stance is not hypocritical, so the claim in the OP is nonsensical, but immigrants giving birth to have US citizens is still something that is discussed currently. I think it is one of the interesting aspects of the US that it accepts those born within its borders as citizens, that is not the case in Germany, to me some of the great aspects of the US directly relate to that stance.

Originally posted by Bardock42
And yet, here are people discussing things, almost like your delusions don't affect reality....

Like you said the left wing stance is not hypocritical, so the claim in the OP is nonsensical, but immigrants giving birth to have US citizens is still something that is discussed currently. I think it is one of the interesting aspects of the US that it accepts those born within its borders as citizens, that is not the case in Germany, to me some of the great aspects of the US directly relate to that stance.

*illegal immigrants.

Big difference. I like how you refuse to say that.

I don't see anyone complaining about legal immigrants having babies here.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
*illegal immigrants.

Big difference. I like how you refuse to say that.

I don't see anyone complaining about legal immigrants having babies here.

I have used the (recent) phrase in the past. I have however read a pretty decent opinion as to why it is inappropriate, and have therefore decided to avoid it.

You are right, it's dead wrong to call something what it is.

You can use the term if you want, I don't care, but you are asking me to use it, which seems silly.

So you can't call illegal, illegal?