Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
I don't see anyone trying to deport Superman or Goku./ thread.
And what exactly is the issue here? The constitution? Considering most of you sound like Republicans/conservatives, it amazes me that you have a direct disagreement with the constitution; oh and also, most likely the part in the constitution that grants black people basic human rights.
For now...
Right, my personal editorial decision to avoid the term is political correctness gone mad, but TI's insistence that everyone uses his preferred, and loaded, term when there are perfectly fine alternatives is alright.
Regarding "criminals", we don't use that word for every breaking of the law either. If you speed you do break the law, but in general no one would call you a criminal or an illegal. The word "illegal" to describe a person is solely used for immigrants, and that is part of the reason why it is so charged. It evokes a high level of criminal energy, which in my opinion, is not warranted for most unauthorized immigrants. People like Star and TI further this, by talking about unauthorized immigrants that perpetrate severe crimes, trying to link crimes like murder and rape to the much less severe act of crossing a boarder illegally.
So, yeah, I will avoid the term, if you don't want to do that, that's fine, but I think there's good reasons to, because the words we use to describe a situation matter.
Bardock, Ironic that not a single country in Europe allows citizenship from just being born there, quit acting like you have some moral high ground, you don't, you are more guilty for turning away illegal immigrants than we are.
Caught you red handed again.
And Star and I are not the only one who use the term, do you not read the news?
Did you catch me red handed, or did I literally say that in this very thread...
Originally posted by Bardock42
I think it is one of the interesting aspects of the US that it accepts those born within its borders as citizens, that is not the case in Germany, to me some of the great aspects of the US directly relate to that stance.
Except that it means that your statement was pointless, as he'd already admitted that Germany doesn't automatically take in babies born in Germany.
If you'd stop looking for a fight for no real reason, you might see that.
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That said, I really have no issue with the term "illegal immigrant". I don't think it's dehumanising at all, but that's me.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Except that it means that your statement was pointless, as he'd already admitted that Germany doesn't automatically take in babies born in Germany.If you'd stop looking for a fight for no real reason, you might see that.
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That said, I really have no issue with the term "illegal immigrant". I don't think it's dehumanising at all, but that's me.
I'm pretty sure I know what he's saying without you trying to mediate. You don't post enough here to automatically understand bardocks backwater thinking and you can't quantify my entire stance and his based off one post. Mind staying out of it.
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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I'm pretty sure I know what he's saying without you trying to mediate. You don't post enough here to automatically understand bardocks backwater thinking and you can't quantify my entire stance and his based off one post. Mind staying out of it.Thanks
lol.
How about no. Bardock and I have argued/debated plenty in the past, so might be a good idea to keep your silly conclusions to yourself.
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Originally posted by -Pr-
lol.How about no. Bardock and I have argued/debated plenty in the past, so might be a good idea to keep your silly conclusions to yourself.
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If you have a problem with it, take it up over pm instead of derailing and trying to moderate my discussion. Because you won't get the last word in here.
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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
If you have a problem with it, take it up over pm instead of derailing and trying to moderate my discussion. Because you won't get the last word in here.Thanks
I was neither derailing nor moderating anything. I was just telling you that you were wrong. Big difference.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Prove it.Also, might want to edit that comment, there.
You clearly missed the point, I'm not going to go over it with you again. But keep going please.
Resorting to grammar police is an admission of loss.
I see you have a big chip on your shoulder now, cause you thought oh he won't do anything.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You clearly missed the point, I'm not going to go over it with you again. But keep going please.Resorting to grammar police is an admission of loss.
I see you have a big chip on your shoulder now, cause you thought oh he won't do anything.
What point? That you accused him of something when he'd earlier stated something else?
A loss of what? Are we debating the actual topic here?
lol, what possible reason would I have to think that?
Originally posted by -Pr-
So you want to continue going off topic and avoiding my questions? Seems a tad silly.I never said my grammar was perfect, fyi.
But please, keep calling me names.
So you call me out for using "your" instead of "you are."
Then you start sentences off with "lol,"
What else do you call that but hypocrisy. If you can find another name in your dictionary, do post the word and definition.
I don't care much, Ush will come in here soon and tell everyone to get back on topic.