German Immigration

Originally posted by Surtur
Maybe we should look at the root of the problem? Are we doing anything to try to make Mexico a place where the citizens actually don't want to flee to another country?

No, actually the US is doing the opposite by enabling extreme crime through the "war on drugs".

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, actually the US is doing the opposite by enabling extreme crime through the "war on drugs".

It's like this country never learns from its mistakes. Prohibition apparently didn't teach them the lesson it should have. Not to mention the epic failure of the "war" on drugs.

People say the USA has never lost a war? We have.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's like this country never learns from its mistakes. Prohibition apparently didn't teach them the lesson it should have.

By "them" you mean your government?

Originally posted by Bardock42
By "them" you mean your government?

Yes, sorry about that looking at it now I should of phrased it differently.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
As has been pointed out before, birthright citizenship came about long before the notion of Mexican immigration to America was an issue.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'does Mexico treat Americans well?' Do you mean the Mexican government, the Mexican people? I know you like to focus on a few cases where Americans run afoul of Mexican corruption and ignore all the hundreds of thousands of Americans who vacation in Mexico without serious trouble.

The 14th Amendment is being abused and was never intended for the the purpose of illegal immigration, it was for slaves.

Sounds like some of these amendments need amending..

Originally posted by Surtur
Sounds like some of these amendments need amending..

Or they just need to be read correctly.

The framers never had it in their mind or would have thought the politicians and liberals to let in illegal immigrants and grant them citizenship to their kids, then subsequently.

I do find it funny how we cling to some rules that are f*cking centuries old without taking into account the vast changes that have occurred since they were made.

It's like finding a centuries old piece of food and thinking "must still totally be good to eat".

Originally posted by Surtur
I do find it funny how we cling to some rules that are f*cking centuries old without taking into account the vast changes that have occurred since they were made.

It's like finding a centuries old piece of food and thinking "must still totally be good to eat".

People cite the constitution to support their position, and deny it's applicability when it disagrees with them all the time.

Originally posted by Bardock42
People cite the constitution to support their position, and deny it's applicability when it disagrees with them all the time.

Yep...and the overwhelming majority of the time it's liberals who do that. 👆

Originally posted by Star428
Yep...and the overwhelming majority of the time it's liberals who do that. 👆

It's both sides, really everyone. Conservatives in particular talk big about how they believe in the constitution, until it disagrees with their opinions, which makes it somewhat more hypocritical, but really it's everyone.

Originally posted by Bardock42
People cite the constitution to support their position, and deny it's applicability when it disagrees with them all the time.

The 14th amendment was not intended nor does it state 'illegal immigrants get citizenship"

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The 14th amendment was not intended nor does it state 'illegal immigrants get citizenship"

You are right that it doesn't state "all illegal immigrants[...]", it states "all persons"...

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The 14th amendment was not intended nor does it state 'illegal immigrants get citizenship"

If I were to overhaul the immigration system, I'd make it such that citizenship isn't earned through a long drawnout bureaucratic process but by simply living in America according to American laws and paying taxes for a certain probationary period (let's say 5 years). Instead of trying to stop people from crossing the border through dangerous means like coyotes, we could have registration centers at the border similar to how refugees are handled coming from warzones. If the immigrants aren't afraid to step out into the light, it might be easier to keep track of them.

Probably lots of problems with such a plan though.

Anyways back on topic.

Not only does Germany not allow birth right citizens, they deport anyone they find.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Anyways back on topic.

Not only does Germany not allow birth right citizens, they deport anyone they find.

Interesting. Sounds cool.

How does that affect their low-paying low-skilled labor area of industry?

Are they hurting for those types of workers?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Interesting. Sounds cool.

How does that affect their low-paying low-skilled labor area of industry?

Are they hurting for those types of workers?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Interesting. Sounds cool.

How does that affect their low-paying low-skilled labor area of industry?

Are they hurting for those types of workers?

They have to hide and a lot can't work..

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
They have to hide and a lot can't work..

Oh, like illegal immigrants in the US?

Also, I think you're answering a question DDM didn't ask.

Originally posted by Slay
Oh, like illegal immigrants in the US?

Also, I think you're answering a question DDM didn't ask.

Maybe, I think you are responding to a post I didn't direct to you.

So be gone troll.