14th Amendment

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Who the fck are you btw? Some wanna be American?

Yeah, LOL. Like I said before, he's clueless. "Citizenship isn't born. It's made". 😂 Just when I think he couldn't say something more stupid than stuff he has said in other threads recently, he tops it with that silly statement. LMAO. I guess he overlooked the fact that u served this country honorably. He thinks thugs who burn towns down/attack cops and illegal immigrants have more rights to American citizenship than our country's heroes. He has some ****ing nerve saying you should have to take a test to see if you're citizenship material when you've already served your country which is more than I can say for most of the snobs here who claim they're American when they don't even believe in protecting our unalienable Constitutional rights. He's starting to irritate me. May have to make room for him on my ignore list.

Originally posted by Van Hohenheim
Let's use your standards, mkay.

Your argument is that the 14th Amendment is specifically designed for black people because they were forcefully brought to the USA.

Going by this logic, then the 14th Amendment should also apply to Mexicans, since much of what is the USA now was once Mexicos. And people had to leave and or not be owners of their own land [b]without choice.

This just begs the question then, who can stay in the USA and be legal? [/B]

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Originally posted by Star428
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Wow....This stupid post doesn't even warrant a reply.

Troll's gonna troll.

Great let the kids stay, give them over to the state and kick the parents out or kick them all out and let the kids choose citizenship when they turn 18.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You know wanna bee's opinions mean literally nothing. You can't even get your own country in order.

Get your house in order before you want to fix ours.

Eh, Germany is doing pretty well.

Originally posted by Star428
May have to make room for him on my ignore list.

You would do that for me? It would be an honour.

At any rate, the 14th Amendment has been interpreted by the Supreme Court to grant birthright citizenship to children of immigrants for over 120 years. The Unites States in the past have dealt, and ultimately embraced, the demographic changes that immigration has brought (English, French, German, Irish, Italian, Chinese, ...), it is pathetic that so many right wingers now want to deny this beautiful and rich heritage of their country.

Originally posted by Bardock42

At any rate, the 14th Amendment has been interpreted by the Supreme Court to grant birthright citizenship to children of immigrants for over 120 years. The Unites States in the past have dealt, and ultimately embraced, the demographic changes that immigration has brought (English, French, German, Irish, Italian, Chinese, ...), it is pathetic that so many right wingers now want to deny this beautiful and rich heritage of their country.

It is an interesting moment when you sit up and realize, your opponents are literally afraid of babies.

...You're a 14th ****ing amendment...

Originally posted by Bardock42
To clarify the reason why I posted what I posted, rather than a more complete discussion of my stance and my understanding of others' stances within the debate.

But don't you think that my original interpretation of your post implies that both are understood?

1. Because you directly stated "...Q99's point..."
2. And you also added your own little tidbit about it being "tiny" which Q99 never stated or directly implied (rather, the implicit meaning that could be obtained from Q99's point was that there was no difference, at all so perhaps you didn't quite understand Q99's point?). This implies it is your point (the "tiny" part) and you're supplementing your idea of this being Q99's point in addition to adding your own opinion with your adjective "tiny." For normal people, this is called agreeing with someone's opinion.

Let me make it clear that this round about game you just played was unnecessary because my original interpretation was exactly your position.

Seems this was just another word game. An unnecessary exercise that you know how to trick me into playing. Sometimes, I don't fall for it. Sometimes, I do. I fell for it, this time.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But don't you think that my original interpretation of your post implies that both are understood?

1. Because you directly stated "...Q99's point..."
2. And you also added your own little tidbit about it being "tiny" which Q99 never stated or directly implied (rather, the implicit meaning that could be obtained from Q99's point was that there was no difference, at all so perhaps you didn't quite understand Q99's point?). This implies it is your point (the "tiny" part) and you're supplementing your idea of this being Q99's point in addition to adding your own opinion with your adjective "tiny." For normal people, this is called agreeing with someone's opinion.

Let me make it clear that this round about game you just played was unnecessary because my original interpretation was exactly your position.

Seems this was just another word game. An unnecessary exercise that you know how to trick me into playing. Sometimes, I don't fall for it. Sometimes, I do. I fell for it, this time.

Okay.....victory...yay?

Originally posted by Bardock42

At any rate, the 14th Amendment has been interpreted by the Supreme Court to grant birthright citizenship to children of immigrants for over 120 years. The Unites States in the past have dealt, and ultimately embraced, the demographic changes that immigration has brought (English, French, German, Irish, Italian, Chinese, ...), it is pathetic that so many right wingers now want to deny this beautiful and rich heritage of their country.

It's like they hate America and everything she stands for and has stood proudly for.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay.....victory...yay?

Yeah, you won the moment I clicked reply to your comment. But I was unaware this was about winning.

And, yes, I am aware that you are implying that I think I won "the game." No, I only understood why I lost.

I'm implying there is no game, and it's weird that you think there is...

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm implying there is no game, and it's weird that you think there is...

This is another game. But it is meta, now. Now it is a game about whether or not you play word games. The bet course of action is to not play.

Game Inception?

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is another game. But it is meta, now. Now it is a game about whether or not you play word games. The bet course of action is to not play.

Back on topic, I think the outrage over illegal immigration is a classic example of politicians finding scapegoats. Illegal immigration is really not a problem at all, in fact it is a positive for the country, yet people are easy to rile up against any "other" group...

I think race and language play a big part of it. I don't know how enraged conservatives would be if we had a similar scale problem with Canadian illegals.

Originally posted by Bardock42
They aren't changed though, your country has always been a country of immigration (much more lax than nowadays). The laws have been clearly that of birthright citizenship since before the twentieth century, heck, your president is required to be born within the countries borders.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Eh, Germany is doing pretty well.

Germany is not doing well on immigration, they don't let anyone become citizens based on illegal immigration, much less any other type, are you in a dream world?