Naruto, easily.
Karate Kid doesn't have an answer for his clones, or his big area attacks, and chakra cloak means Naruto can pretty much stop KK from touching him.
While Val can fight some very strong people, those ones tend to be 'strong, straightforward, can have their attacks redirected or dodged' types.
Not "can make a hundred superfast superstrong supersense martial artists that can do nuke level attacks if need be."
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Karate Kid who overpowered Kryponians or some shit like that
Nope. He's judo-thrown some untrained kryptonians, which is rather different.
KK doesn't have a good defense against explosions, Naruto can definitely evade him and block him with a chakra cloak, overwhelm him with clones or simply growing too many hands to stop, etc. etc..
Really, the big question is how Naruto does it. Obviously, dropping a biju ball is way too easily.
Karate Kid has big feats but he is specialized, he is not the most powerful of the Legion and can and has been taken down.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I'll go with the guy who's massively FTL and can dodge Flashes and throw around PC Kryptonians.(Anyone arguing otherwise is a ****ing idiot BTW).
Oh don't jump to that.
See, the thing is, Naruto doesn't have to engage him in HtH, and what HtH happens, can entirely be done by clones. And he has area effect attacks that KK, pretty much, can't dodge.
Plus, hitting back, Naruto may as well be protected by a force field.
Like I mentioned, Val can punch above his weightclass against 'strong, straightforward, can have their attacks redirected or dodged' types.
Come at him with a punch or something super fast? Sure, he'll dodge the heck out of it. Not a problem.
That's not Naruto, though.
Naruto is an incredibly versatile multi-powered character, and Karate Kid can't handle everything with martial arts, even though if something can be handled with martial arts them he can handle it.
Judo-throwing a charging PC kryptonian is something else entirely than some of the threats here. He can't out-punch a shockwave.
Or heck, Naruto can just throw clones at him til he's tired. Naruto doesn't exactly get tired later on, after all, and the clones are very very very tough and would take a lot of effort to handle each.
(Also... KK has been hit in HtH by other skilled HtH even if he hits them more, Naruto does have some combat precog and quite good HtH and the ability to grow chakra-limbs... even HtH isn't exactly easy here!)
Except you're missing actual relevant arguments and just seem to be assuming KK is invincible because he's Karate Kid and any argument against it 'must be dumb'.
But his level of HtH skills doesn't make him immune to area effect attacks, blasts, or similar. He has been taken down in the comics by such things, he is not invincible on the whole simply due to his skill in one area. He will win in that area, but he is just one part of the legion who needs help just like the other legionnaires for a reason. I am a Legion Fan, I have a lot of Legion of Superhero comics, I have nothing against him as a character.
Another factor: Naruto is faster than Karate Kid in terms of 'ability to move around distances.' Val can react to the Flash and use a flight ring, but he's not the Flash himself.
Meaning, the real Naruto can stay away from Karate Kid indefinitely, without problem. He can throw mobs of thousands of clones, explosions, all kinds of stuff, without Val being able to strike at actual Naruto in return.
This image look familiar, Mike? It's from your photobucket (quick google of KK found it, only after I clicked did I realize, heeey, it's yours!), shows a fast foe who can react to his moves block a hit.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Karate%20Kid/valvsequus2.jpg
And here he gets hit in HtH. Not invincible even there, even though he is the best.
Or this one:
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Karate%20Kid/valvsoraclesystem.jpg
Karate Kid gets grabbed by mere robot tentacles due to them getting him from behind.
Note that Naruto has abilities quite similar to this, with clones capable of making chakra arms out of any part of them.
And I'm not even talking Naruto taking Val on HtH, just, you know, tossing one of his ranged abilities at Armorr.
Naruto creates a shockwave with a multi-kilometer area. What can Val do?
Pre-Crisis Superman sneezes and blows up the solar system. What does Val do? Apparently, a lot, going by, you know, THE ACTUAL COMICS. The fact he's faced people who could casually finger-flick the planet he's standing on into the sun, and NOT LOST kind of shuts down all of your retarded arguments, unless you just want to use low-end showings to downplay. In that case, Naruto beats Superman because the latter once got KO'd by a gas station explosion, he beats the Hulk because he once got choked by a snake, he beats Firelord because he lost to Spider-Man, and he beats Silver Surfer because he got KO'd by a brick. I.e. the moronic downplayer's way of arguing.
So yeah, I didn't bother reading the rest of your spergtastic ramblings. For the same reason that I don't bother reading the contents of some conspiracy nut's 'incontrovertible proof' that 9/11 was an inside job done by Reptilian Jews. Because in both cases, I know for a fact that you're full of shit and were probably dropped on your head several times as a baby.
Of course, for the benefit of impartial observers who may not be aware of all of the relevant facts here, I'll present to you just one piece of evidence:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114806/3771515-1628974989-18966.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/80103/3715022-2806655-0830_legion_of_super_heroes_v4__111___page_14.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114806/3771519-8134815787-15016.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/30145/2806660-0830_legion_of_super_heroes_v4__111___page_20.jpg
Just to explain what's going on here, that's Val fighting Mon-El, a Daxamite. A race who have powers equivalent to Kryptonians. Val has no problem dodging his heat vision, which is of the type that can reach the Earth from the sun in seconds (whereas light takes over 8 minutes). Don't try to give me the aimdodging argument either, since Kryptonians and Daxamites can think, process information, and aim/move their heads at vastly FTL speeds too. Not only does Val fail to be hit by the HV, or any of Mon-El's attacks, but he dodges his physical rush and tosses him straight to another star system, in instants. One he was specifically aiming for, because it had a red sun, which drains Mon-El's powers. And, to top it all off, that was Post-Crisis Val, who was immeasurably weaker than his Pre-Crisis counterpart, the one who does this kind of shit to Pre-Crisis Kryptonians, Validus, and various other cosmic horrors who are capable of traveling across the universe in the blink of an eye and destroying galaxies by farting.
If you are aware of this and still believe that this isn't the biggest curbstomp this side of Godzilla vs. a lobotomized, crippled, three-legged kitten with AIDS and hemophilia, you are either:
a. Incurably retarded
b. Trolling
c. All of the above
So continuing to attempt to 'debate' this with you would be about as fruitful an endeavor as trying to teach a monkey calculus. Now if you'll excuse me, I have more productive things to do than try to hammer the painfully obvious through your neutronium-dense skull.
I mean you don't have to like the character of Karate Kid, but saying "hey batman beat him" is about as ridiculous as one can get.
Since no, I don't care. Doesn't matter. He's consistently so far above Batman it isn't even funny. Karate Kid is what little ninja's in Naruto pray to God they will be like when they grow up. He's also the reason so many ninja's are atheists, because once grown up they find...yeah, they don't even hold a candle to Val so all that praying was for nothing.
