Originally posted by Nephthys
Revan has some of the best defenses of any fighter though. His tutaminis is arguably the best, his mental defenses are immense and he had special prep against Vitiate and his TK is better than Mace or Dooku's.Dooku couldn't replicate Revan's fight. Mace could repel Vitiate's lightning through Vapaad probably, but not Vitiates other attacks....
Revan's TK is better? Sorry just curios. Also one aside from breaking through Satele Shan and crews defenses plox.
Originally posted by Sinious
I'm still not seeing any explanation on how the team will survive the TP attack. This is a team that can challenge even the strongest Jedi under right circumstances but its a heavily melee oriented one which is not a very efficient feature in this case since the tricky part is to close the gap.
I don't remember Vitiate attempting a TP assault on Revan, Meetra or Scourge in the book so why would he here?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
He attempted it on Revan, but since Revan had prior knowledge of the attack he was able to find a way around it and knock Vitiate on his ass.
Ah well none of the combatants have TP resistance feats that I am aware of. Depending on how quickly Vitiate can assault the team with TP will decide the fight. How much time did Revan have to stop the assault? And what is the starting distance between Vitiate and the team?
Originally posted by Syndicate
Ah well none of the combatants have TP resistance feats that I am aware of. Depending on how quickly Vitiate can assault the team with TP will decide the fight. How much time did Revan have to stop the assault? And what is the starting distance between Vitiate and the team?
There was no specified time in which Revan had to stop the assault, though it was made evident that Revan couldn't directly over power the assault, i.e. through sheer force of will.
Spoiler:
Though Revan ended up doing that against Vitiate and the Dread Masters for 300 years anyways.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
There was no specified time in which Revan had to stop the assault, though it was made evident that Revan couldn't directly over power the assault, i.e. through sheer force of will.Spoiler:
Though Revan ended up doing that against Vitiate and the Dread Masters for 300 years anyways.
But I meant how did he stop the assault? I was going to attempt to estimate the time his attack took and use that as a minimum time scale for how long it would take Vitiate to enact his telepathic assault. Along with that are we aware of the starting distance between the combatants?
Originally posted by SyndicateVitiate tried it only on Revan because the others weren't even engaging Vitiate with Revan as they were fighting the guards. The novel makes it clear that the only way for Scourge and Meetra to face Vitiate was learning Revan's defense against Vitiate's TP attack. Vitiate had already overwhelmed Scourge's mind in the novel even without sending a TP attack. He merely exposed his dark nature to Scourge and it was enough.
I don't remember Vitiate attempting a TP assault on Revan, Meetra or Scourge in the book so why would he here?
Originally posted by Syndicate
But I meant how did he stop the assault? I was going to attempt to estimate the time his attack took and use that as a minimum time scale for how long it would take Vitiate to enact his telepathic assault. Along with that are we aware of the starting distance between the combatants?
Don't have quote on hand, so summary: Vitiate starts to TP Revan; Revan gathers/opens himself up to the light and dark sides of the force. Revan releases the energy in the form of a blast that knocks Vitiate on his ass.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Don't have quote on hand, so summary: Vitiate starts to TP Revan; Revan gathers/opens himself up to the light and dark sides of the force. Revan releases the energy in the form of a blast that knocks Vitiate on his ass.
Ah so there's probably no specific amount of time we can estimate. Along with the fact that we don't know how far apart the opposing teams are. Oh well. Anyways if the team can avoid getting mind raped by Vitiate they stomp.
"As Meetra and Scourge battled the Guard, Revan charged toward the Emperor. His opponent stood perfectly still, focusing and channeling his power. At the last possible instant, the Emperor unleashed a wave of energy that swept Revan off his feet and sent him flying backward.
Revan twisted in midair so that he was able to roll with the impact when he landed. He quickly sprang back to his feet and advanced again, moving more slowly this time. The Emperor stood in the exact same position as before; it was as if he hadn't even moved. Revan began to sense the oppressive presence of the dark side weighing down on him. The Emperor was trying to crush his will: to dominate and enslave his mind as he had before. This time, however, Revan was ready.
Instead of charging forward, he opened himself up to the Force, letting both the light and the dark side flow through him like twin rushing rivers. But instead of focusing or channeling the Force, he released it in its purest form.
There was brilliant flash as the air between the two combatants lit up. The energy unleashed was powerful enough to send Revan staggering. The Emperor, unprepared and with much of his strength diverted to his effort to dominate Revan's mind, was sent flying backward.
He landed in a heap on the floor and Revan raced toward him. The Emperor rolled over, lifted himself up on one knee, and his hands flew forward as he hurtled a bolt if dark side lightning at his enemy.
Revan intercepted the bolt with the blade of his lightsaber, though the impact stopped his charge dead in its tracks.
The Emperor unleashed three more bolts in quick succession. Revan batted the first aside with his lightsaber, ducked the second, then deflected the third back in the direction of its source.
It struck the Emperor in its chest, sending him sliding several meters back on the floor. For the first time the Sith's emotionless veneer cracked as he let out a primal hiss of hate.The sound sent shivers down Revan's spine."
―Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
...Even if they do win, it's not a stomp.
Mace dueled evenly with Dooku somebody who was able to hold off Yoda for a time. Dooku as mentioned above has held off Yoda for a time. Maul has dueled with Grievous evenly and has managed to hold his own against Sidious for a time though it's debatable if Sidious was simply toying with him. I'd still say they stomp if they force Vitiate to pull out his blade.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Lightsaber skill is irrelevant here, Vitiate has the TP prowess to dominate all three.
And if he does then we know who the victor here is as the 3 combatants have no TP resistance feats ( that I know of ). But obviously this can be countered as Revan did so in the novel. We just need to know their starting distance and how long it took Revan to employ his counter. Since that knowledge is currently unavailable to us we have to put the debate of TP and counters aside until further information makes itself known to us.
Now I'm simply stating that if the team were to counter Vitiate's TP they would stomp.