Rebels Ashoka Tano vs Darth Vader season 2 prediction

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Funny, the way that line is bent sort of seems like the way you like to bend things to prove point all the while ignoring/being ignorant about the "context" of the fight.

Isn't that was you said was most important?

Your point = moot.

Dark Woman is regarded as one of "the last greatest warriors of the Jedi" and he fought her on her ground too how is that bad?

In other words: poor performance. 👆

Sha Koon fought him a little ways after he got the suit

wooow using Bultar and Tsui as examples is pathetic, he was fighting a bunch of other Jedi while they stood back and watched. Of course they're going to get the better of him when he's, you know, distracted on a bunch of other Jedi around him

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@King Joker: Because besides his duel with Kanan/Ezra and then later Luke, it's all we have to gauge his skill.

then its not looking good

Ant it seems we have diff definitions of poor performance.

Ant's pretty on point. Vader is one of the characters with the widest range of interpretations of him, sometimes hes a clunky, slow shadow of his past glory and sometimes he's one of the best combatants ever. He doesn't seem to that above most of the people he fights though.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Ant it seems we have diff definitions of poor performance.

This goes for me too.

I get what you're(ant is) trying to say, but his(Vaders] fights with those people don't really seem like bad showings.

I think Rebels will show Vader and Ashoka evenly matched with Ashoka reminding Vader hes still anakin. somehow the fight will be interrupted either by stormtroopers or ezra and kanan.

i dont think vader will ragdoll ashoka. i think he will think what she says.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
I can agree that Ahsoka logically shouldn't be anywhere near Vader in the Force, given her lack of training,

I thought she was well trained by Anakin. I even got the impression she would have been Knighted in the S5 Finale has she accepted to rejoin the Jedi. But maybe that's just me.

In any case she was certainly much better trained and much more powerful than Kanan, who came a long way on his own in S1 of Rebels.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66

But given it's said that Vader wants Ahsoka dead more than any Jedi short of Kenobi, he pretty obviously should be going all out - Telekiensis included.

She could be almost as good as Kenobi, in which case any legitimate fight between the 2 would be consistent with the Vader/Kenobi fight in ANH.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@King Joker: Because besides his duel with Kanan/Ezra and then later Luke, it's all we have to gauge his skill.

It doesn't matter because Disney canon is a completely different continuity the old EU, so the old EU is pretty irrelevant to this topic.

Besides, he has more than enough feats and accolades with Disney to gauge his abilities in TK.

Originally posted by redpill
I think Rebels will show Vader and Ashoka evenly matched with Ashoka reminding Vader hes still anakin.

I think Vader will clearly be superior, but there will be no ragdolling. At most there will be the odd force push/wave which floors her. But she will get back up and continue fighting.

Well, her lack of training/experience relative to Vader. But I don't see any reason why she couldn't have increased pretty drastically during the decade+ between TCW and Rebels.

Kind of annoying how months before the fight, it's already being labeled as 'PIS'. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised, though.

Originally posted by |King Joker|

Kind of annoying how months before the fight, it's already being labeled as 'PIS'. Guess I shouldn't be too surprised, though.

LOL Yeah and before we've even seen how powerful she is now.

Vos, a C-list Jedi, jumping up to the level at which he can beat Dooku in a few months and one book? That's fine.

Ahsoka, one of the main characters of TCW who already has impressive feats as a teenager, rising up to the level at which she won't get ragdolled by Vader over a 14 year gap between two TV series? Complete and utter PIS tbh.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Vos, a C-list Jedi, jumping up to the level at which he can beat Dooku in a few months and one book? That's fine.

Ahsoka, one of the main characters of TCW who already has impressive feats as a teenager, rising up to the level at which she won't get ragdolled by Vader over a 14 year gap between two TV series? Complete and utter PIS tbh.

Lol

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Vos, a C-list Jedi, jumping up to the level at which he can beat Dooku in a few months and one book? That's fine.

Ahsoka, one of the main characters of TCW who already has impressive feats as a teenager, rising up to the level at which she won't get ragdolled by Vader over a 14 year gap between two TV series? Complete and utter PIS tbh.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Vos, a C-list Jedi, jumping up to the level at which he can beat Dooku in a few months and one book? That's fine.

Ahsoka, one of the main characters of TCW who already has impressive feats as a teenager, rising up to the level at which she won't get ragdolled by Vader over a 14 year gap between two TV series? Complete and utter PIS tbh.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Vos, a C-list Jedi, jumping up to the level at which he can beat Dooku in a few months and one book? That's fine.

Yeah, no. That's not fine.

Regardless, your point stand. Ahsoka is a very strong in the force. Who knows how powerful she has become since TCW?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Vos, a C-list Jedi, jumping up to the level at which he can beat Dooku in a few months and one book? That's fine.

Ahsoka, one of the main characters of TCW who already has impressive feats as a teenager, rising up to the level at which she won't get ragdolled by Vader over a 14 year gap between two TV series? Complete and utter PIS tbh.

I can only think of a few times Vader has ragdolled his opponents anyway.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Vos beating Dooku is pretty stupid too, all things considered.

how so? dooku is getting old. vos is still young. dooku defeated anakin and obiwan on a consistent basis and is finally defeated by anakin.

imho its highly implausible that a chancellor who spends his waking hours on politics can easily defeat 4 jedi master who practice every day and hone their skills. and he continues to grow extremely old while obi wan gets old and loses his touch.

Originally posted by redpill
how so?

Well for 1 it takes a lot away from Dooku's eventual defeat at the hands of ROTS Anakin.

Weren't there circumstances surrounding Vos beating Dooku though? I don't think it would happen with him doing it consistently.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Weren't there circumstances surrounding Vos beating Dooku though?

Only that Vos had completely embraced the DS I think.

But they had a fight earlier in the book that Dooku won. And that was after Vos had already been trained in the DS by Ventress.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
I don't think it would happen with him doing it consistently.

Honestly I think for most combatants in SW we need multiple fights between them or between common opponents before we can properly gauge what would happen on a consistent basis.
I mean unless the Power and Skill gap is crystal clear like Sidious vs Maul Bros, or it's an almost All-Round stalemate like Yoda vs Sidious.

Simply because there's so many circumstantial and questionable fights in SW.

Don't forget before TCW Series, many people used to question Anakin's win over Dooku. It's only after seeing multiple fights between them through TCW that it becomes clear Anakin was probably always going to win by ROTS.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well for 1 it takes a lot away from Dooku's eventual defeat at the hands of ROTS Anakin.

wasn't dooku defeated by maul as well?