Starkiller vs. Vitiate

Originally posted by Sinious
Nah I was referring to another thread earlier.

Where was this segue made? mmm

Originally posted by Sinious
Well said. Though true maturity is being able hope for a lot without having any expectations as impossible as it sounds. This doesn't appear to be the case with you at all. You seem too eager to get satisfied(or make yourself believe you're satisfied) with these little, unimportant things. This is a sign of obsession, not successful expectation management.

Sounds like fortune cookie nonsense tbh.

I engage in activities that not only bring me a modicum of happiness, but I'm also correcting the errors of a wayward disciple.

I'm doing the Lord's work, really. excellent

Originally posted by Sinious
You need to be insane to think the gap is actually that big. All Vitiate did is keep on his usual progression of power over 300 years and drain Revan. If that is enough to make him(someone who is inferior to Galen Marek) powerful enough to give peak Sidious a good fight, then how did he not become a Force God after 1100 years of progression and draining a planet+8000 sith lords?

That's a great question and one that's been posited time and again. How is it that Vitiate, after draining 8k Sith Lords and studying the dark side for damn near a millennium-and-a-half, is so inexplicably pedestrian?

At the same time, how is it that a barely-trained and inexperienced Luke Skywalker can conquer one of history's most powerful Sith in Return of the Jedi whereas an even more innately powerful Skywalker [Anakin] with 10+ years of formal training under his belt gets his ass handed to him by another Sith Lord in Attack of the Clones?

The franchise is littered with such puzzles.

Originally posted by Sinious
I thought you yourself didn't believe that? It seems Ant's compliments have boosted your ego and I'm paying for it. 😒

Nah, you're simply paying the price for your lack of vision.

Spoiler:
teehee

Originally posted by Sinious
Well we can't be both logical and emotional at the same time now can we? And you certainly have your emotional moments here which is nothing to be ashamed of buddy. Embrace your imperfection.

Well we both aren't. I am and you're not. 😬

Originally posted by Nephthys
I ridiculed the idea with a gif. I took no personally offense.

Of course you did.

You, who regularly appeals to a sense of decency among posters, who routinely protests perceived trolling, who habitually seeks to promote healthy and civil discussion as opposed to mockery surely wouldn't willfully and casually dip your toes into the fetid water into which your enemies have plunged headlong.

So the only logical conclusion is that you somehow took personal offense to this and responded in kind.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh god. No, you just assumed I made that conclusion a few pages ago after I said something negative about you, remember? You brought it up completely out of the blue. And then I pointed out that I'd really been thinking of Nai. Frankly, that should have been the end of it. Your bruised ego and my willingness to respond to you has kept us going.

Nonsense. Your renewed hostility towards me followed Ant's remark and has clearly influenced our dealings elsewhere. Your anger elevated further when I pointed out that you clearly don't believe your shallow endorsement of Nai.

All roads lead back to Ant's innocuous endorsement of myself and I'm just trying to discern the root of your frustrations with it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I would have to agree with you though. Anyone so insecure that they take anything negative and blow it up to a perceived vendetta does have real issues. Especially if they're completely unable to follow events in reality.

I'm pleased by your aroused self-awareness, which begins to incrementally ascend over the peaks of your blind rage like the morning sun over a mountain range.

Originally posted by Nephthys
In that you're good at one and not the other. Can you recognize the hostile implication in that sentence???? 😉

I can indeed. But now we must dedicate our investigation into discovering why you're so upset.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well I have a mild infection in my toe. But other than that, I'm really not at all bothered.

Now, now. Let's not undermine all our progress with petty denial!

Let's turn our attention to your relationship with Ant.

Where, exactly, did you two finally diverge?

So... can we all agree that Starkiller wins and move on to other awesome threads.

Originally posted by Stigma
So... can we all agree that Starkiller wins and move on to other awesome threads.

The pro-Vitiate sentiment was pretty decisively undermined pages ago, but very little time has been spent on the fight in the actual thread.

The distraction is further compounded by the fascinating psychological study in which Neph and I currently find ourselves and I'd rather not risk collapsing the veritable goldmine of progress I'm making with him by truncating the conversation.

Neph is a dear friend and helping him sort his issues is infinitely more important to me.

Perhaps we can discuss these things concurrently? You should feel free to weigh in, Stigma!

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Where was this segue made? mmm

In a thread Ant made I think. I doubt I can find it.

Sounds like fortune cookie nonsense tbh.

I'm doing the Lord's work, really. excellent

Not really. Like I said, don't mistake your obsession with maturity.

I engage in activities that not only bring me a modicum of happiness, but I'm also correcting the errors of a wayward disciple.

That's a great question and one that's been posited time and again. How is it that Vitiate, after draining 8k Sith Lords and studying the dark side for damn near a millennium-and-a-half, is so inexplicably pedestrian?

At the same time, how is it that a barely-trained and inexperienced Luke Skywalker can conquer one of history's most powerful Sith in Return of the Jedi whereas an even more innately powerful Skywalker [Anakin] with 10+ years of formal training under his belt gets his ass handed to him by another Sith Lord in Attack of the Clones?

The franchise is littered with such puzzles.

All Vitiate did is keep on his usual progression of power over 300 years and drain Revan. If that is enough to make him(someone who is inferior to Galen Marek) powerful enough to give peak Sidious a good fight, then how did he not become a Force God after 1100 years of progression and draining a planet+8000 sith lords

Nah, you're simply paying the price for your lack of vision.

Spoiler:
teehee

Why are you so insecure about Vitiate nearing Sidious though? The original Emperor is still no.1 and his wannabe incarnation is no.2. How could a character dominate a franchise any better than that?

Well we both aren't. I am and you're not. 😬

Still denying your imperfection. You do know denial of imperfection is caused by either obsession or narcissism right? Since we already know you have both, this outcome isn't surprising.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The pro-Vitiate sentiment was pretty decisively undermined pages ago, but very little time has been spent on the fight in the actual thread.

The distraction is further compounded by the fascinating psychological study in which Neph and I currently find ourselves and I'd rather not risk collapsing the veritable goldmine of progress I'm making with him by truncating the conversation.

Neph is a dear friend and helping him sort his issues is infinitely more important to me.

Perhaps we can discuss these things concurrently? You should feel free to weigh in, Stigma!

Concerning the argument on the fight itself, I share your sentiment. As Starkiller's victory has been alteady established there are things infinitely more important to attend to.

I have faith in your therapeutic skils, hope you will straighten Neph out! I offer my humble help, if need.

Originally posted by Sinious
In a thread Ant made I think. I doubt I can find it.

No, I mean where in this thread did you make the segue from this instance to that one? Where did the conversation become disjointed?

Originally posted by Sinious
Not really. Like I said, don't mistake your obsession with maturity.

Passion seems like a more apt description. mmm

Originally posted by Sinious
I'm a bit too wayward for a disciple don't you think?

You claim to agree with me "on almost everything" so I think not. You're like Skillz {albeit not quite as skilled} in that you want to dissent but ultimately can't escape the inexorable pull of my Rightness.

You'll bend the knee. You always do.

Spoiler:
If you don't watch GoT you won't catch the reference.

Originally posted by Sinious
So you dodged my point by giving irrelevant examples? I'll just put this here so you don't avoid it again:

It wasn't a dodge lol. I'm simply pointing out to you that it's a great question, that it's nothing new, and that there are lots of like examples. I'm not obligated to provide you an explanation for bad writing.

Originally posted by Sinious
We seem to agree on almost everything about SW except for Vitiate and you're the one who keeps on contradicting himself when it comes to this character so I doubt any of this is my fault.

It is indeed your fault, you deviant. uhuh

Originally posted by Sinious
Why are you so insecure about Vitiate nearing Sidious though? The original Emperor is still no.1 and his wannabe incarnation is no.2. How could a character dominate a franchise any better than that?

Did it hurt to type that? mmm

Originally posted by Sinious
Still denying your imperfection. You do know denial is caused by either obsession or narcism right? Since we already know you have both, this outcome isn't surprising.

When I'm done with my session with Neph, you may take your turn on the soft therapeutic couch of my guiding wisdom.

But not before.

Originally posted by Stigma
Thanks Temp, you seem like a real stand-up guy. The way you care about Neph is inspiring.

Concerning the argument on the fight itself, I share your sentiment. As Starkiller's victory has been alteady established there are things infinitely more important to attend to.

I have faith in your therapeutic skils, hope you will straighten Neph out! I offer my humble help, if need.

Thanks.

I might pick on Neph from time-to-time and we certainly disagree over many things, but he and I go way back and he's truthfully one of the coolest cats on KMC.

The opportunity to help him eliminate a source of chronic tension is too great to ignore.

Did we ever find out if this was TFU or TFU2 'Killer, btw? mmm

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Thanks.

I might pick on Neph from time-to-time and we certainly disagree over many things, but he and I go way back and he's truthfully one of the coolest cats on KMC.

The opportunity to help him eliminate a source of chronic tension is too great to ignore.

Agreed. Putting others first is also my motto. Neph is just one of these people you cannot bare to see in pain. Very sad, but there's always hope.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Did we ever find out if this was TFU or TFU2 'Killer, btw? mmm

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Of course you did.

You, who regularly appeals to a sense of decency among posters, who routinely protests perceived trolling, who habitually seeks to promote healthy and civil discussion as opposed to mockery surely wouldn't willfully and casually dip your toes into the fetid water into which your enemies have plunged headlong.

So the only logical conclusion is that you somehow took personal offense to this and responded in kind.

Nah, I wasn't being offensive. My post indicated confusion, incredulity and skepticism.

It didn't have anything to do with me personally. Please calm down.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nonsense. Your renewed hostility towards me followed Ant's remark and has clearly influenced our dealings elsewhere. Your anger elevated further when I pointed out that you clearly don't believe your shallow endorsement of Nai.

All roads lead back to Ant's innocuous endorsement of myself and I'm just trying to discern the root of your frustrations with it.

You mean, after a nights sleep? No bro, I was genuinely agreeing with Sinious that you have a habit of accusing someone of getting emotional and smugly prancing around about it.

As you're proving right now.

I didn't even respond to your connection until the second post after you mentioning it. It was far from my mind this morning.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm pleased by your aroused self-awareness, which begins to incrementally ascend over the peaks of your blind rage like the morning sun over a mountain range.

I'm more troubled by your apparent lack of self-awareness. Tell me, did your mother ever touch your penis?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I can indeed. But now we must dedicate our investigation into discovering why you're so upset.

Daddy didn't love me, tbh.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Now, now. Let's not undermine all our progress with petty denial!

Let's turn our attention to your relationship with Ant.

Where, exactly, did you two finally diverge?

Nope, really not bothered. I don't care that Ant said that more than a spiffy gif's worth.

Also I dunno, ask him.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
No, I mean where in this thread did you make the segue from this instance to that one? Where did the conversation become disjointed?

I think you said I ended the previous debate and I assumed you were referring to another thread.

Passion seems like a more apt description. mmm

You claim to agree with me "on almost everything" so I think not. You're like Skillz {albeit not quite as skilled} in that you want to dissent but ultimately can't escape the inexorable pull of my Rightness.

but

You'll bend the knee. You always do.

Spoiler:
If you don't watch GoT you won't catch the reference.

It wasn't a dodge lol. I'm simply pointing out to you that it's a great question, that it's nothing new, and that there are lots of like examples. I'm not obligated to provide you an explanation for bad writing.

It is indeed your fault, you deviant. uhuh

Did it hurt to type that? mmm

When I'm done with my session with Neph, you may take your turn on the soft therapeutic couch of my guiding wisdom.

But not before.

To be honest I agree, Tempest like others here would be respected to a far greater degree if not for their attitude or egos.

Who needs respect when you can be right?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Who needs respect when you can be right?

Do you honestly believe he is right here? 😬

I don't even know what he's trying to prove, honestly.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Who needs respect when you can be right?

Originally posted by Sinious
Do you honestly believe he is right here? 😬

Regarding Vitiate vs. Revan? Yiz.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't even know what he's trying to prove, honestly.

That SWTOR Vitiate is near DE Sidious level yet novel Vitiate is inferior to Starkiller. 😄

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Regarding Vitiate vs. Revan? Yiz.

Originally posted by Sinious
That SWTOR Vitiate is near DE Sidious level yet novel Vitiate is inferior to Starkiller. 😄