Starkiller vs. Vitiate

Started by The_Tempest11 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, thats the awkward thing. You think you can do that but you then you just randomly squeal that I'm unset and laugh in triumph but all I'm ever doing is making this face irl 😬

Its like watching flat-earthers hi-5ing over their brilliant arguments while the opposition just looks into the camera like they're on the Office.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also my reaction to Ant was more about the fact that everyone knows Nai shits in your eyes at every opportunity.

Indeed? You should tell this guy.

That's a bizarre English expression btw. mmm

Yeah, dig up a 4 year old post to prove how totally not a over-invested loser you are. That'll work. 👆

Past me was an idiot, practically nothing that guy says was ever right. Present me is well aware that Nai dominates you every time he posts and that I just had your back out of loyalty. Thankfully now I know that you're a huge douche so theres no chance of that anymore.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, dig up a 4 year old post to prove how totally not a over-invested loser you are. That'll work. 👆

Past me was an idiot, practically nothing that guy says was ever right. Present me is well aware that Nai dominates you every time he posts and that I just had your back out of loyalty. Thankfully now I know that you're a huge douche so theres no chance of that anymore.

Well thank God you're not getting emotional about this. 😬

😂

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Well thank God you're not getting emotional about this. 😬

That you're a huge douche, is merely a fact that I am stating clearly for the record. It comes from a place of acceptance, not rage. Please respect our differences, arseface.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Well thank God you're not getting emotional about this. 😬
Originally posted by Nephthys
That you're a huge douche, is merely a fact that I am stating clearly for the record. It comes from a place of acceptance, not rage. Please respect our differences, arseface.
Spoiler:
This is why you have a reputation for emotional insecurity. All of this because Ant indicated that I'm a better debater than you.

Pro-tip: Any post where I reference Homestuck isn't one in which I'm angry.

tbh tho defending your emotional outbursts so extensively indicates that 1) you really care if people think you're emotional and 2) you probably are

just saying m7

Originally posted by Nephthys
Pro-tip: Any post where I reference Homestuck isn't one in which I'm angry.

No one here watches? reads? listens to? that shit tbh. mmm

Anyway, I quite honestly have nothing to do with your ongoing feud with Ant and I'd ask that you kindly leave me out of it. There's no need to besmirch our longstanding and rewarding friendship because you're upset with somebody else.

Thats why its so funny to steal jokes from it all the time.

Originally posted by The_Tempest

Spoiler:
This is why you have a reputation for emotional insecurity. All of this because Ant indicated that I'm a better debater than you.

It doesn't faze me that Ant would imply that, he openly states it practically all the time. It was just how nuts that suggestion was. Plus I got to post that gif.

Originally posted by ILS
tbh tho defending your emotional outbursts so extensively indicates that 1) you really care if people think you're emotional and 2) you probably are

just saying m7

It takes 10 seconds to write a post. I prefer to reply to people and keep up the funny banter than leave them hanging.

The fact that I absolutely amAnt believes I'm a better debater than you and apparently conveys that with regularity only makes your behavior here even more suspect.

What this has to do with Nai is anyone's guess. Sure, maybe Ant thinks I'm a better debater than Nai. So do you. You're simply saying otherwise presently because you're mad at me for some reason.

It's funny you mention banter because that's what I've been telling you this is for years now.

I'm trying to understand your thought process, Neph. Just let me in, baby.

Ant rags on me in general bro. He outright insults me. It doesn't bother me, dunno why I'd be offended by that post in particular. He doesn't gush about you all the time, much as I'm sure you want to think he does.

I'm saying it because he recently clowned you. And has done a lot over the years. You're the one making a big deal over my reaction.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Actually, you promised a response that you've yet to provide and have spiraled rapidly into attempted trolling.

Hmm? Are you talking about this thread or a past discussion we had?

Which sincerely pleases me. excellent

At least I'm doing you the courtesy of insulting you while refuting your arguments. The fact that I've driven you to such lengths is particularly gratifying.

You're way too easily pleased dude.

Nowhere does that require this particular iteration of Vitiate to be comparable to any and all iterations of Sidious. Starkiller can defeat this incarnation of Vitiate and yet Vitiate ultimately be a peer of Sidious. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

If you were thinking critically rather than emotionally, you'd understand that. excellent

Except they are. You said they were close before SoR came out so you were referring to SWTOR Vitiate. Since you were referring to DE Sidious and SWTOR Vitiate, and since DE Sidious > OT Sidious >>> Galen, you're basically saying that SWTOR Vitiate would give DE Sidious a good fight but novel Vitiate would lose to Galen? 😂

You've done a fine job thinking critically. 👆

The feeling is mutual Temp, I like you too but sometimes you say illogical things. 🙂

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ant rags on me in general bro. He outright insults me. It doesn't bother me, dunno why I'd be offended by that post in particular.

Again, that has nothing to do with me and I've kindly asked you to keep me out of it. I'm not responsible for his endorsements, though I can't deny his keen perception on this matter.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He doesn't gush about you all the time, much as I'm sure you want to think he does.

eh?

You
It doesn't faze me that Ant would imply that, he openly states it practically all the time.

I never claimed Ant gushes about me all the time. You did. 😬

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm saying it because he recently clowned you. And has done a lot over the years. You're the one making a big deal over my reaction.

Nah, Ant's remark was made to another user and you got worked up about it. It had nothing to do with you. All I've done is simply point out that your hostility on the subject is bizarre since you apparently agree with the sentiment.

Which of course leads to the obvious conclusion that you're only publicly dissenting now because you're upset.

I understand why Ant's insults would bother you, but what about his remark about me did you perceive to be an attack on you?

Let's discuss.

Originally posted by Sinious
Hmm? Are you talking about this thread or a past discussion we had?

Weren't we talking about this one? mmm

Originally posted by Sinious
You're way too easily pleased dude.

That's not at all a bad thing. Pro-tip for life: the key to happiness is ultimately about expectation management.

Originally posted by Sinious
Except they are. You said they were close before SoR came out so you were referring to SWTOR Vitiate. Since you were referring to DE Sidious and SWTOR Vitiate, and since DE Sidious > OT Sidious >>> Galen, you're basically saying that SWTOR Vitiate would give DE Sidious a good fight but novel Vitiate would lose to Galen? 😂

Uh... why not? SWTOR!Vitiate and Revan!Vitiate are worlds apart. The Emperor would eat anything other than peak!Vitiate alive.

Originally posted by Sinious
You've done a fine job thinking critically. 👆

Well how else would I be "the best debater in history"? excellent

Originally posted by Sinious
The feeling is mutual Temp, I like you too but sometimes you say illogical things. 🙂

Me? Say illogical things?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Again, that has nothing to do with me and I've kindly asked you to keep me out of it. I'm not responsible for his endorsements, though I can't deny his keen perception on this matter.

Calm down. I'm just pointing out that his post wasn't insulting to me at all. And even if I took it that way, which I didn't, its too tame to get upset over.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
eh?

I never claimed Ant gushes about me all the time. You did. 😬

In that he says I'm trash constantly. Thats what I meant.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Nah, Ant's remark was made to another user and you got worked up about it. It had nothing to do with you. All I've done is simply point out that your hostility on the subject is bizarre since you apparently agree with the sentiment.

Hostility? Yeah ok, steven universe gifs are super hostile now. Sorry I didn't account for your sensitivities.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I understand why Ant's insults would bother you, but what about his remark about me did you perceive to be an attack on you?

Absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Calm down. I'm just pointing out that his post wasn't insulting to me at all. And even if I took it that way, which I didn't, its too tame to get upset over.

That's an excellent observation and one with which I agree: his remark was not insulting to you and whatever unfortunate implications might be drawn from such a remark are too tame for a healthy mind to take offense.

So why did you take offense?

Originally posted by Nephthys
In that he says I'm trash constantly. Thats what I meant.

mmm

But he didn't say you were trash there. His remark wasn't directed to you nor did it imply anything about you other than the obvious: that me being the best debater in history simply means that you're not.

So you drew a wild conclusion from an otherwise innocuous remark and that conclusion is that you're trash. Or rather, that he thinks you're trash.

That's a hell of a leap, and suggests enormous insecurities regarding your image and Ant's opinion of you.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Hostility? Yeah ok, steven universe gifs are super hostile now. Sorry I didn't account for your sensitivities.

The recognition of hostility and taking personal offense at it are two entirely different phenomena.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Absolutely nothing.

Then what's the source of all this frustration, Neph? Why are you so bothered?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Weren't we talking about this one? mmm
Nah I was referring to another thread earlier.

That's not at all a bad thing. Pro-tip for life: the key to happiness is ultimately about expectation management.
Well said. Though true maturity is being able hope for a lot without having any expectations as impossible as it sounds. This doesn't appear to be the case with you at all. You seem too eager to get satisfied(or make yourself believe you're satisfied) with these little, unimportant things. This is a sign of obsession, not successful expectation management.

Uh... why not? SWTOR!Vitiate and Revan!Vitiate are worlds apart. The Emperor would eat anything other than peak!Vitiate alive.
You need to be insane to think the gap is actually that big. All Vitiate did is keep on his usual progression of power over 300 years and drain Revan. If that is enough to make him(someone who is inferior to Galen Marek) powerful enough to give peak Sidious a good fight, then how did he not become a Force God after 1100 years of progression and draining a planet+8000 sith lords?

Well how else would I be "the best debater in history"? excellent
I thought you yourself didn't believe that? It seems Ant's compliments have boosted your ego and I'm paying for it. 😒

Me? Say illogical things?

Well we can't be both logical and emotional at the same time now can we? And you certainly have your emotional moments here which is nothing to be ashamed of buddy. Embrace your imperfection.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
That's an excellent observation and one with which I agree: his remark was not insulting to you and whatever unfortunate implications might be drawn from such a remark are too tame for a healthy mind to take offense.

So why did you take offense?

I ridiculed the idea with a gif. I took no personally offense.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
mmm

But he didn't say you were trash there. His remark wasn't directed to you nor did it imply anything about you other than the obvious: that me being the best debater in history simply means that you're not.

So you drew a wild conclusion from an otherwise innocuous remark and that conclusion is that you're trash. Or rather, that he thinks you're trash.

That's a hell of a leap, and suggests enormous insecurities regarding your image and Ant's opinion of you.

Oh god. No, you just assumed I made that conclusion a few pages ago after I said something negative about you, remember? You brought it up completely out of the blue. And then I pointed out that I'd really been thinking of Nai. Frankly, that should have been the end of it. Your bruised ego and my willingness to respond to you has kept us going.

I would have to agree with you though. Anyone so insecure that they take anything negative and blow it up to a perceived vendetta does have real issues. Especially if they're completely unable to follow events in reality.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The recognition of hostility and taking personal offense at it are two entirely different phenomena.

In that you're good at one and not the other. Can you recognize the hostile implication in that sentence???? 😉

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Then what's the source of all this frustration, Neph? Why are you so bothered?

Well I have a mild infection in my toe. But other than that, I'm really not at all bothered.