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Although I don't agree with Juggerman's view on this, I also think it's fair for someone to change views or opinions over time. Just saying.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Although I don't agree with Juggerman's view on this, I also think it's fair for someone to change views or opinions over time. Just saying.

I never said he couldn't change his opinion.

The point is that juggerman says he changed his opinion in regards to Prof X effecting non-humans in 2012, yet when the topic comes up two years later. there is no evidence to support it. bottom line is that he wanted Superman to win and his Prof X can't effect non-humans is just an excuse, just like in the other thread where he claimed Superman had an invisible aura that protects him from damage.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You said that you dropped the argument in the Kronos thread because you changed your mind about Prof X effecting non-humans. if that is true. why didn't you mention Thor's non-human status in 2014, which was 2 years after the Kronos thread?

Because I wasn't thinking of Thor as a non human. I was thinking of his a more powerful than Shaw who made Xavier struggle to hold him.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Although I don't agree with Juggerman's view on this, I also think it's fair for someone to change views or opinions over time. Just saying.

He's just trying to save face because he searched high and low for a quote of mine but his plan got foiled because he didn't read thru the thread

Originally posted by Silent Master
I never said he couldn't change his opinion.

The point is that juggerman says he changed his opinion in regards to Prof X effecting non-humans in 2012, yet when the topic comes up two years later. there is no evidence to support it. bottom line is that he wanted Superman to win and his Prof X can't effect non-humans is just an excuse, just like in the other thread where he claimed Superman had an invisible aura that protects him from damage.

Except I doubted Xavier's ability years before Superman came into question as your silly little search proved 👆

Originally posted by juggerman
Because I wasn't thinking of Thor as a non human. I was thinking of his a more powerful than Shaw who made Xavier struggle to hold him.

You didn't know that Thor the Asgardian god of Thunder was a non-human?

Did I say that?

So you knew that Thor was non-human, you just forgot that you believed Prof X would have trouble with non-humans?

Twisting again? I already stated it wasn't what I was thinking about at the time.

So you remembered that Thor was non-human and that you believed Prof X would have trouble with non-humans. you just thought Thor's power level was a better argument?

If I didn't think about then how could I have decided the other was better?

Convenient that you suddenly remember that you weren't thinking about Thor's non-human status when you made the power argument, when I had to provide the link because you didn't even remember the thread.

You just said "in a thread". How am I supposed to know which you are talking about? You didn't give me any specifics but you pretend I should have been a mind reader?

When you go back and read a thread you have a much better understanding of what and why than you would with that nonsense you did with not giving me much info

I told you it involved Thor and Prof X and that you didn't refer to his non-human status when TP was brought up, that was all the info you needed.

Clearly it wasn't. But again once I actually read it I had a better understanding.

Yea, you understood that I was telling the truth, so you had to make up an excuse for why you didn't mention it and at first you tried to play it off as the non-human part was implied because the two people you mentioned him having trouble with was Hulk and Thor, but then you realized that the Hulk is a mutated human and not non-human so you dropped that and went with the "I just didn't think about it".

All I did was stated Thor and Hulk were different from humans. They are. I didn't say it was implied. I said it fits with what you were trying to claim it wasn't seeing as how they are different from humans.

So this is your second failed attempt. Wanna find a third thread that proves nothing?

Originally posted by juggerman
Actually I didn't attribute it to anything originally. I just said it might not work but I was willing to go either way. It wasn't until 2014 that I mentioned the power thing because of me remembering X having an issue with Shaw. I made that same statement here as well and it fits with my "change of opinion" seeing as how Thor and Hulk are the only non humans on the team and they were the only ones I doubted he could affect from the get go

Context just isn't your friend is it? 😂

Here I'll even hold your hand:

You lied(for like the third time) and said I attributed Thor and Hulk resisting due to their strength back in 2012. You also tried to make it seem like that somehow contradicts my opinion on Xavier not affecting non humans. All I did was point out your lie and tell you that it in no way contradicts my opinion because Thor and Hulk are non humans and they are the only non humans on the team. The only way it would have contradicted would be if I said he could affect a non human

Look at it this way, if say Gamora was also on the team and I still said only Hulk and Thor due to strength, you'd have your first point in all of this. As it stands all you have is me doubting X affecting non humans.

Don't you feel better now?

Incorrect, you basically said that you changed your mind back in 2012.

Originally posted by juggerman
That's adorable. You scrolled all thru posts looking for things I said years ago. Only if you kept reading you'd see it was pointed out to me on the very next page that there was no proof X could affect Kronos and I didn't bring it up again. Keep looking thru old threads tho, that's not desperate at all 👆

I then brought up a thread that included a post from 2014(IE two years later) where you didn't bring up Thor's non-human status as a reason for Prof X having trouble. You tried to claim that the 2014 quote fit your 2012 change of opinion because both Thor and Hulk are non-humans.

Originally posted by juggerman
Actually I didn't attribute it to anything originally. I just said it might not work but I was willing to go either way. It wasn't until 2014 that I mentioned the power thing because of me remembering X having an issue with Shaw. I made that same statement here as well and it fits with my "change of opinion" seeing as how Thor and Hulk are the only non humans on the team and they were the only ones I doubted he could affect from the get go

Only the Hulk isn't a non-human and once you realized that you dropped that part of the argument. at least until I called you on it, at which point you tried to pretend that you just said that the Hulk was different from human, which isn't even true as the Hulk is just a mutated human.

Originally posted by juggerman
All I did was stated Thor and Hulk were different from humans. They are. I didn't say it was implied. I said it fits with what you were trying to claim it wasn't seeing as how they are different from humans.

So this is your second failed attempt. Wanna find a third thread that proves nothing?

At which point I posted the quote where you actually claimed that the Hulk was a non-human and not just "different".

Originally posted by juggerman
Thor and Hulk are the only non humans on the team and they were the only ones I doubted he could affect from the get go