Superman(Reeves) vs MCU, DCCU, Arrowverse, XMCU, Star Wars and Hancock

Originally posted by Silent Master
Incorrect, you basically said that you changed your mind back in 2012.

I did change my mind in 2012 as evidenced by the thread you quoted out of.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I then brought up a thread that included a post from 2014(IE two years later) where you didn't bring up Thor's non-human status as a reason for Prof X having trouble. You tried to claim that the 2014 quote fit your 2012 change of opinion because both Thor and Hulk are non-humans.

Me not using it in a debate doesn't mean I didn't think it. If I don't say Mystique can create claws in a fight does that mean I suddenly don't think she can? Get real

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only the Hulk isn't a non-human and once you realized that you dropped that part of the argument. at least until I called you on it, at which point you tried to pretend that you just said that the Hulk was different from human, which isn't even true as the Hulk is just a mutated human.

Hulk is a non human imo. Being a non human does make him "different" from humans. Just like a cat is different from humans.

Originally posted by Silent Master
At which point I posted the quote where you actually claimed that the Hulk was a non-human and not just "different".

Hulk is a non human. Me saying "different" rather than saying "non human" over and over doesn't change that. Keep trying tho 👆

The Hulk isn't a non-human and no amount of you crying will change that fact.

He is but that really doesn't matter now does it? You tried and failed to point out non existent inconsistencies. The most you can claim at this point is that I may be wrong about Hulk. I've stuck to what I said and no amount of you searching your little heart out for old threads, or trying to misrepresent my words will change it.

As everyone can clearly see, I did point out inconsistencies. you're just making excuses at this point.

Again, the Hulk isn't a non-human.

Nothing was inconsistent. You reached and you failed. Hard.

He is but this doesn't matter.

The posts prove otherwise.

BTW, consider this a bonus gift.

Originally posted by juggerman
Me not using it in a debate doesn't mean I didn't think it. If I don't say Mystique can create claws in a fight does that mean I suddenly don't think she can? Get real

I like how you've changed your tune again

Originally posted by juggerman
Probably because it was two years prior and I may not have been thinking of Thor as an alien or a god but as a being more powerful than someone Xavier had trouble with due to power

Originally posted by juggerman
Because I wasn't thinking of Thor as a non human. I was thinking of his a more powerful than Shaw who made Xavier struggle to hold him.

And that proves what? That I wasn't thinking about Thor being an alien? Oh you got me there!!!!!!! 😂

How long do you plan on keeping this nonsense up?

Longer than you, mister Bruce Banner isn't a human.

Banner and Hulk are different.

Oh so you're pulling a "quan" eh? Just replying with silliness until I get bored and you claim an imaginary win? Great plan.

The Hulk is the mutated form of Banner, they are not separate entities.

Nice try Mr. Bruce Banner, Peter Parker and Ben Grimm aren't human.

First you dwell up a super old thread to prove a point. Then when smacked down you frantically search for another one to bolster your resolve. When defeated again you harp on "non human" and "different from human" being some kind of stance change. And now finally you dwell on my opinion of Hulk. Boy you are sad. 😂

You didn't smack anything down, as my quote chain proves and you know it, that is why you are now trying to claim that people like Bruce Banner, Peter Parker and Ben Grimm aren't human.

Yup cuz Peter Parker and Ben Grimm are exactly like Banner. Oh yeah you got me. Derp

EDIT: and yes I smacked down every point and easily too. That's why you've resorted to this childish stuff

They are both mutated humans, just like Banner and Ben even has a changed form.

You're making this too easy.

Yup and just like Banner, Grimm has a completely different personality and mind in his transformed state. I totally agree 🙄

So now you're claiming that having a personality shift is what makes the Hulk non-human. I guess that means everyone with MPD is also non-human, right?

I'm just pointing out Hulk and Thing are not the same. But if you wish to believe so go right ahead

By claiming that having a personality shift makes the Hulk non-human...just like all those people with MPD and possibly those with bipolar disorder. LOL!!!

Originally posted by juggerman
Mutants are very close to humans in their make up with only one difference(X-Gene). You can't compare that to a completely alien life form that has no common link.

Originally posted by juggerman
You also tried to make it seem like that somehow contradicts my opinion on Xavier not affecting non humans.

Wait, Hulk is a human altered by radiation. Thing, a human affected by cosmic rays and Spiderman, a human altered by a radioactive/mutant/whatever spider bite. They are very similar to each other in terms of them being ordinary humans that got altered by something giving them powers. Are they all non human?

And Captain America has more in common with Hulk (being an altered human himself) than he does to BW and Hawkeye. So how can you say only Hulk and Thor are the only non-humans when Cap actually fits this criteria, too.

Then I remember you saying tha mutants are "close" to humans and that is why Xavier can affect them, but somehow Xavier cannot affect non-humans. And you give Hulk as an example of non-human even tho he is just a human mutated by radiation?

So mutants are very close to humans even tho they're not but Xavier can affect them but Hulk is a non human and Xavier cannot affact non humans?

Not calling you out, but am genuinely curious what your justification for these comparisons are. Cuz it looks like your criteria is all over the place....

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Wait, Hulk is a human altered by radiation. Thing, a human affected by cosmic rays and Spiderman, a human altered by a radioactive/mutant/whatever spider bite. They are very similar to each other in terms of them being ordinary humans that got altered by something giving them powers. Are they all non human?

And Captain America has more in common with Hulk (being an altered human himself) than he does to BW and Hawkeye. So how can you say only Hulk and Thor are the only non-humans when Cap actually fits this criteria, too.

Then I remember you saying tha mutants are "close" to humans and that is why Xavier can affect them, but somehow Xavier cannot affect non-humans. And you give Hulk as an example of non-human even tho he is just a human mutated by radiation?

So mutants are very close to humans even tho they're not but Xavier can affect them but Hulk is a non human and Xavier cannot affact non humans?

Not calling you out, but am genuinely curious what your justification for these comparisons are. Cuz it looks like your criteria is all over the place....