Who's faster between Ichigo Kurosaki and Naruto Uzumaki?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well Naruto and Sasuke went from here:
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/693/10

to here:http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/693/14 in the time it took Hagoromo to finish talking to Kakashi.

There's also the fact that Naruto blocked an attack that crossed the diameter of the moon point blank.

hmm that is impressive

thers no way to really know how far away that was..... only thing we know is that the valley of the end is on the border of the fire country

and we dont knw the exact poin where their battle with kaguya was

Yes we do, actually. If you want I can show you, but I'm not going to go through the trouble if no one cares.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yes we do, actually. If you want I can show you, but I'm not going to go through the trouble if no one cares.

lol you know exactly where on the map kaguya was?

That would still Be more impressive than anything Ichigo has done up until now. Also there's this.

YouTube video
At the 7:12 mark, Naruto blocks Tonrei's attack and said attack was that same tech used in aforementioned moon cutting.

Originally posted by yungz22
lol you know exactly where on the map kaguya was?

Yep. It was around where the Shinju was, and I was able to find it's location on the map.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That would still Be more impressive than anything Ichigo has done up until now. Also there's this.

YouTube video
At the 7:12 mark, Naruto blocks Tonrei's attack and said attack was that same tech used in aforementioned moon cutting.

naruto was on the moon gravity is much weaker speed feats there are null and void because it wouldnt be the same on earth

Decent point, ngl.

Originally posted by yungz22
naruto was on the moon gravity is much weaker speed feats there are null and void because it wouldnt be the same on earth

As opposed to moving a body that actually isn't there lol.

Toneri would be faster than as well, not just Naruto. Actually Toneri is actually used to the gravity on the moon and would be accustomed to fighting there. Besides, Naruto lifting his hand to block the attack is less affected by the gravity than running or jumping. He also pulled the feat off without his Sage Mode precog.

Originally posted by yungz22
i guess i gave ppl too much credit.

apparently people arent smart enough to know that the average step usually occurs in a second lol

cmon now we are all smart enough to know what i meant

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Yeah that's one of those things you just gotta handwave away.

The whole Las Noches thing just confuses me. It's a desert like world inside a building with a fake sky as the ceiling...in another desert like world. I just don't get it.

I was using Madara's Palpatine attack and Indra's Arrow. The former based on Kaguya's lightning looking the same as actual lightning and the latter based on it's resemblance to Kirin/the resulting lighting strikes after it hit Naruto's attacks.

Also this has nothing to do with anything but go read Magi you magnificent bastard.

I guess.

Aizen likes deserts maybe? His castle was pretty deserted...Ba dum tsh.

Did Naruto really react to Indra's arrow though? I thought they both fired off their attacks at the same time.
As for Madara's Force Lightning, I don't follow. Kaguya's Tenpenchii?

Are you trying to sweet talk me into reading Magi by calling me a magnificent bastard? flirt

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Yes we do, actually. If you want I can show you, but I'm not going to go through the trouble if no one cares.

Colour me intrigued.

Unless it's the Frost country, in which case, meh.
Should really be somewhere within the Land of Lightning.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
As opposed to moving a body that actually isn't there lol.

Toneri would be faster than as well, not just Naruto. Actually Toneri is actually used to the gravity on the moon and would be accustomed to fighting there. Besides, Naruto lifting his hand to block the attack is less affected by the gravity than running or jumping. He also pulled the feat off without his Sage Mode precog.

hes on the moon theres less gravity his speed is affected whether you like it or not

again no one is saying he cant beat ichigo

There are decent speed feats here from versions of Naruto & Sasuke that are weaker than their EoS versions.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
As for Madara's Force Lightning, I don't follow. Kaguya's Tenpenchii?

Are you trying to sweet talk me into reading Magi by calling me a magnificent bastard? flirt

not sure i think he was talking to me lol

btw magi is awesome

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
There are decent speed feats here from versions of Naruto & Sasuke that are weaker than their EoS versions.

YouTube video

i wouldnt say anything there is faster than dangai ichigo.. they didnt ravel any vast distances..... but the dc is crazy lol

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I guess.

Aizen likes deserts maybe? His castle was pretty deserted...Ba dum tsh.

Did Naruto really react to Indra's arrow though? I thought they both fired off their attacks at the same time.
As for Madara's Force Lightning, I don't follow. Kaguya's Tenpenchii?

Are you trying to sweet talk me into reading Magi by calling me a magnificent bastard? flirt

Colour me intrigued.

Unless it's the Frost country, in which case, meh.
Should really be somewhere within the Land of Lightning.

Har har har.

Well the panels go right to left so Sasuke fired it first. vin

Yeah in one panel Kaguya's shown using lightning from the sky. Madara is in a similar mode when he goes Force Lightning.

Yes. Is it working? flirt

If this scan is to be believed then Frost Country is the best bet. Which still gives the two a monster of a speed feat since They'd have to go through the land of hot water(and since Sasuke arrived on the opposite side of the VotE it is likely he took the long way through the Land of Sound). It's also the best fit with the map of the battlefield early on in the war here. Still good feats to be had here since from the Land of Frost the Juubi could still wreck Kirigakure and the SA headquarters with attacks that Naruto(more specifically Minato) can react to.

Pain was right. Life sucks for a small country.

Originally posted by yungz22
hes on the moon theres less gravity his speed is affected whether you like it or not

again no one is saying he cant beat ichigo

And someone just mention Ichigo's a dead body that shouldn't be moving around.

Originally posted by SquallX
And someone just mention Ichigo's a dead body that shouldn't be moving around.

que? lol

He's saying that Ichigo is a ghost when he preforms almost all of his feats and we know gravity only affects things with mass, which is different for all Shinigami/ghosts.

Are we discounting all of Ichigo's feats now?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
He's saying that Ichigo is a ghost when he preforms almost all of his feats and we know gravity only affects things with mass, which is different for all Shinigami/ghosts.

Are we discounting all of Ichigo's feats now?

lmaooooooo seriously is that yall defense.

The first ghost we see in Bleach is literally floating.

"Your body feels light."

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Har har har.

Well the panels go right to left so Sasuke fired it first. vin

Yeah in one panel Kaguya's shown using lightning from the sky. Madara is in a similar mode when he goes Force Lightning.

Yes. Is it working? flirt

If this scan is to be believed then Frost Country is the best bet. Which still gives the two a monster of a speed feat since They'd have to go through the land of hot water(and since Sasuke arrived on the opposite side of the VotE it is likely he took the long way through the Land of Sound). It's also the best fit with the map of the battlefield early on in the war here. Still good feats to be had here since from the Land of Frost the Juubi could still wreck Kirigakure and the SA headquarters with attacks that Naruto(more specifically Minato) can react to.

Pain was right. Life sucks for a small country.

Or more accurately, we first see Sasuke firing his attack, not him firing first. vin

This, right? Kaguya seems to be using Lightning from the sky though.

I'm definitely tempted. flirt

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I agree; based on the general shapes of the landmass, it does look like it was smack bang in the middle of the Land of Frost.

Logically though, it makes little sense. For starters, the area they're in looks nothing like a winter-based area would. I'd assume that at least a small section of a place called 'Land of Frost' would have some areas covered in ice, instead of mountains and forests.

Oonoki placed the Island Turtle on the eastern side of the Land of Lightning, right next to the SA's HQ.
After the mobilization of the Gin-Kin Bros. and the Edo Kages, all of the SA forces moved towards the Land of Lightning, and Gaara's division retreated further inwards in an attempt to stall until Darui's division was done with its battle on the Land of Lightning's coastline.
So basically, all major battles from this point on involving the SA (vs. Edo Kages, Madara & Tobi) had to have occurred within the Land of Lightning.

To get to the battlefields, Naruto and Bee had to move towards the west. Naruto sent his clones out ahead of him, so that they could get to the individual battlefields.
Tobi decided to intercept Naruto and Bee once he knew they were out in the open, which he did after a few hours, and that's when we got the Bijuu/Juubi fight. The only logical area where Tobi could have intercepted Naruto is somewhere within the Land of Lightning, between the western border and the Island Turtle.

But maybe there's something I didn't take into account, or Kishi just didn't bother to be consistent/logical?

Sakura and Kakashi took ~12 hours to get there, but they walked. mmm