Originally posted by AuraAngel
The first ghost we see in Bleach is literally floating.
feeling light and being light are two different things.
you guys are deflecting with such an idiotic rebuttal
even if shinigami are light like you say they are ( they arent) they are still bound by earths gravity.
are yall honestly trying to argue that earth and the moon have the same gravity and speed isnt affected.
if so im on the wrong website because you fanboys are two much lol
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Har har har.Well the panels go right to left so Sasuke fired it first. vin
Yeah in one panel Kaguya's shown using lightning from the sky. Madara is in a similar mode when he goes Force Lightning.
Yes. Is it working? flirt
If this scan is to be believed then Frost Country is the best bet. Which still gives the two a monster of a speed feat since They'd have to go through the land of hot water(and since Sasuke arrived on the opposite side of the VotE it is likely he took the long way through the Land of Sound). It's also the best fit with the map of the battlefield early on in the war here. Still good feats to be had here since from the Land of Frost the Juubi could still wreck Kirigakure and the SA headquarters with attacks that Naruto(more specifically Minato) can react to.
Pain was right. Life sucks for a small country.
Or more accurately, we first see Sasuke firing his attack, not him firing first. vin
This, right? Kaguya seems to be using Lightning from the sky though.
I'm definitely tempted. flirt
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I agree; based on the general shapes of the landmass, it does look like it was smack bang in the middle of the Land of Frost.Logically though, it makes little sense. For starters, the area they're in looks nothing like a winter-based area would. I'd assume that at least a small section of a place called 'Land of Frost' would have some areas covered in ice, instead of mountains and forests.
Oonoki placed the Island Turtle on the eastern side of the Land of Lightning, right next to the SA's HQ.
After the mobilization of the Gin-Kin Bros. and the Edo Kages, all of the SA forces moved towards the Land of Lightning, and Gaara's division retreated further inwards in an attempt to stall until Darui's division was done with its battle on the Land of Lightning's coastline.
So basically, all major battles from this point on involving the SA (vs. Edo Kages, Madara & Tobi) had to have occurred within the Land of Lightning.To get to the battlefields, Naruto and Bee had to move towards the west. Naruto sent his clones out ahead of him, so that they could get to the individual battlefields.
Tobi decided to intercept Naruto and Bee once he knew they were out in the open, which he did after a few hours, and that's when we got the Bijuu/Juubi fight. The only logical area where Tobi could have intercepted Naruto is somewhere within the Land of Lightning, between the western border and the Island Turtle.
But maybe there's something I didn't take into account, or Kishi just didn't bother to be consistent/logical?
Sakura and Kakashi took ~12 hours to get there, but they walked. mmm
~ I was bottom-paged. uhuh
Originally posted by yungz22
feeling light and being light are two different things.you guys are deflecting with such an idiotic rebuttal
even if shinigami are light like you say they are ( they arent) they are still bound by earths gravity.
are yall honestly trying to argue that earth and the moon have the same gravity and speed isnt affected.
if so im on the wrong website because you fanboys are two much lol
I think they're saying that Shinigami are souls, so they won't be affected by Earth's gravity?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Or more accurately, we first see Sasuke firing his attack, not him firing first. vinThis, right? Kaguya seems to be using Lightning from the sky though.
I'm definitely tempted. flirt
But maybe there's something I didn't take into account, or Kishi just didn't bother to be consistent/logical?
Sakura and Kakashi took ~12 hours to get there, but they walked. mmm
~ I was bottom-paged. uhuh
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
True but they look similar to me. It also wouldn't be in character for Madara to attack with lightning slower than the real thing. 😛
Good. You would like it.
Idk. To be fair our Iceland isn't what one might call icy.
Sakura and Kakashi are both still well above the average ninja lol. Kakashi could be Hokage without his eyes.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I think they're saying that Shinigami are souls, so they won't be affected by Earth's gravity?
That is in part why I am saying. It is also worth noting that most of the action in Bleach takes place off of Earth.
Originally posted by yungz22
lol wheres that in the rule book
The fact that Rukia(who earlier described her temporary body as being as physically limiting as a humans) said spirit bodies were light(she said this to a boy in a bird's body). The fact that spirits have been seen defying the laws of gravity since chapter one. The fact that Shinigami bodies are all made of Reishi, not muscles, bones, and tissues. That fact that while Ichigo doing several things as a Shinigami impresses Rukia, stopping himself in midair does not.
Mind you the point isn't to say that all of Bleach's feats are not quantifiable. My point is that if you use the minor variation in gravity on Naruto simply for being on the moon then you can apply the same logic to Bleach.
Bear in mind that we don't actually have proof that gravity is weak on the moon. Naruto's moon is completely inhabitable, there is air to breathe, and running around seems to cause no issues for the characters whatsoever. The moon cutting feat is still every bit as valid .
Originally posted by yungz22
so earth and the moon have the same gravity is what your telling me lol smfhgo read a science book
I have. The moon also does not have air. Naruto characters breathe on the moon.
Quit being such an asshat because you can't come up with an argument for why Ichigo is faster than Naruto.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
I have. The moon also does not have air. Naruto characters breathe on the moon.Quit being such an asshat because you can't come up with an argument for why Ichigo is faster than Naruto.
lol you or anyone else havent shown me a feat thats faster than dangai ichigos feat and yet im the one who cant come up with an arguement.
your arguement is literally the earth and moon have the same gravity lololololololol
Originally posted by yungz22
lol you or anyone else havent shown me a feat thats faster than dangai ichigos feat and yet im the one who cant come up with an arguement.your arguement is literally the earth and moon have the same gravity lololololololol
Ichigo leaps out of a small town(size) in a few seconds while Naruto crosses a country in a few seconds. Ichigo blocks an attack at mach 500 while Naruto blocks an attack at double that. Naruto climbs the Shinju is moments while Ichigo is still running through the Soul Palace. Enlighten me of any showings Ichigo has that surpass this if you would be so kind.
In Naruto the moon is literally able to hold life and was made by a man who could physically control gravity. The two having the same gravity is not contradictory with the canon in the slightest and is in fact likely considering Hamura's clan lived there.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Ichigo leaps out of a small town(size) in a few seconds while Naruto crosses a country in a few seconds. Ichigo blocks an attack at mach 500 while Naruto blocks an attack at double that. Naruto climbs the Shinju is moments while Ichigo is still running through the Soul Palace. Enlighten me of any showings Ichigo has that surpass this if you would be so kind.In Naruto the moon is literally able to hold life and was made by a man who could physically control gravity. The two having the same gravity is not contradictory with the canon in the slightest and is in fact likely considering Hamura's clan lived there.
can you show me on a map where naruto was before they went to valley of end/
Originally posted by yungz22
can you show me on a map where naruto was before they went to valley of end/
A map of the Naruto world. The 3 dots at the border between the Land of Sound and Land of Fire is the VotE. Only thing in question is where Naruto and Sasuke were.
This image points to the final battle with Madara/Juubi took place inside the Land of Frost, which is still a country away from the VotE.
An exact location for Naruto and Sasuke places them at the shoreline.
Now I will offer an alternative. DP is correct in saying that the Land of Frost doesn't really look like the Land of Frost and believes the battles were still taking place in the Land of Lightning. This is actually still possible. An often overlook moment in the war had the Juubi doing this which ultimately ended up looking like this:
So maybe the Juubi literally changed the structure of the continent and it really was in the Land of Lightning. Unlikely but possible.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?True but they look similar to me. It also wouldn't be in character for Madara to attack with lightning slower than the real thing. 😛
Good. You would like it.
Idk. To be fair our Iceland isn't what one might call icy.
Sakura and Kakashi are both still well above the average ninja lol. Kakashi could be Hokage without his eyes.
That is in part why I am saying. It is also worth noting that most of the action in Bleach takes place off of Earth.
Dude, that meme is old. Also, Rice Crispies ftw.
He'd attack with the fastest lightning he has yes, but Lightning jutsu aren't necessarily lightning speed. How fast was it in the anime?
I'll start reading it this weekend. 👆
Parts of Iceland are icy though. uhuh
To be fair, he was Hokage during a time of world peace. But more to the point, Sakura had to help him walk there.
I haven't seen The Last, so I can't comment.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
This image points to the final battle with Madara/Juubi took place inside the Land of Frost, which is still a country away from the VotE.An exact location for Naruto and Sasuke places them at the shoreline.
Some of the geography just doesn't look right IMO. The sea & shoreline north of the Shinju don't match up with the sea & shoreline to the north of the Land of Frost on the map.
Though Kishimoto isn't exactly consistent with his geography. Meh, either way, those 2 traveled a considerable distance in a short time.
Originally posted by yungz22
agreed but we all know ichigo lose in a fight with naruto so thats besides the point.ichigo has still shown better striking speed and travel speed.
Ichigo has no feats as good as Naruto climbing the Shinju or running literal cross country. Naruto's best striking feat are hitting characters as fast as himself, which is above any feat Ichigo has.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Dude, that meme is old. Also, Rice Crispies ftw.He'd attack with the fastest lightning he has yes, but Lightning jutsu aren't necessarily lightning speed. How fast was it in the anime?
I'll start reading it this weekend. 👆
Parts of Iceland are icy though. uhuh
To be fair, he was Hokage during a time of world peace. But more to the point, Sakura had to help him walk there.
I haven't seen The Last, so I can't comment.
Some of the geography just doesn't look right IMO. The sea & shoreline north of the Shinju don't match up with the sea & shoreline to the north of the Land of Frost on the map.
Though Kishimoto isn't exactly consistent with his geography. Meh, either way, those 2 traveled a considerable distance in a short time.
Snap Crackle Pop?
It was flashing. It was also purple so hey.
Yay! =3
Parts of the Frost Country might be icy too. Though I like my idea of the Juubi radically altering the geography.
To be fair Kakashi is Kakashi.
You don't want to. It is really not very good. Ironically Hanabi is still as 1337 as ever though. "It is fun to watch a girl in agony."
Indeed. But it also doesn't look quite as bad to write it off completely.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Isn't Naruto-verse's Moon different from the RL Moon?
Yes.
