Introduction of Islam to Europe and America

Originally posted by long pig
No, I'm asking you which one bothers you the most?

Oh, none bother me, I don't believe the bible is anything more than fiction...and I'm perfectly fine with people explaining things with metaphor, etc., just if you take the bible at face value (for example the King James Version, as some Christians do) that just seems to have a lot of issues.

Originally posted by long pig
No, I'm asking you which one bothers you the most?

Originally posted by red g jacks
how about the fact that jesus doesn't fit the hebrew description of the messiah? i would say that's a big one to me lol

The one that bothered me s lot was the two different accounts of creation in the first chapters of gen.

Also, it seems like God made people on the 6th day, rested then made Adam and Eve. Separate peoples? Would explain Cain's wife etc.

Originally posted by long pig
This is a big one. Here's the issue. He fits the biblical description of the Messiah, but he doesn't fit the Talmudic or oral tradition of what the rabbis envisioned the Messiah to be. Jews believe that to be equal to the books of Moses.

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html

Originally posted by red g jacks
i'm not going to act like an expert on the bible, but it seems to me these jews are using the torah to say that jesus doesn't fit the messianic prophecy, not the talmud.

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html

That's the argument in a nutshell.

There are no contradictions in the bible. Anyone who is under that false assumption hasn't been granted understanding by God. Just keep in mind too, that a lot of the bible wasn't properly translated over to english from the original language.

Originally posted by Star428
There are no contradictions in the bible. Anyone who is under that false assumption hasn't been granted understanding by God. Just keep in mind too, that a lot of the bible wasn't properly translated over to english from the original language.

Or maybe the earlier non-contradicting versions of the Bible were lost and we only got the inferior copies that were changed by some transcriptor.

Originally posted by long pig
Basically everything they say he didn't do, he either did it in a manner they don't accept or he promised to do it at his return.

That's the argument in a nutshell.

Ok, is there any more to say on topic?

Originally posted by red g jacks
i'm not going to act like an expert on the bible, but it seems to me these jews are using the torah to say that jesus doesn't fit the messianic prophecy, not the talmud.

http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html

The pope just said that the koran and the bible are similar😂

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The pope just said that the koran and the bible are similar😂

What do you expect from that agent of Satan? He continues to deceive the world (mainly Catholics, his followers) on a constant basis. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Yep, people treat him like he is their savior.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Ok, is there any more to say on topic?

Originally posted by Star428
What do you expect from that agent of Satan? He continues to deceive the world (mainly Catholics, his followers) on a constant basis. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Originally posted by Star428
What do you expect from that agent of Satan? He continues to deceive the world (mainly Catholics, his followers) on a constant basis. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

He's the biggest fraud there is. Anyone that puts himself between the people and God is going to hell.

The bible even speaks of this.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
He's the biggest fraud there is. Anyone that puts himself between the people and God is going to hell.

The bible even speaks of this.

He also supports a one-world government which is clearly talked about in the Bible on several occasions. He might even be the propheseid anti-Christ himself. Or perhaps the false prophet who is supposed to help the anti-Christ in the end-times.

Proof that Obama favors muslims over Christians:

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2015/obama-sparks-rage-across-the-country

The pope is only in America cause his false religion is falling apart.

Now he's pardoning people who been ex communicated for divorces, abortions.

I love how it's up to them whether you are catholic or not.

He's only here to fill the coffers of the people he can deceive.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The pope is only in Cuba cause his false religion is falling apart.

You might as well say this. You read too much in whatever the pope is doing just because you see America as the center of the world imho.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Now he's pardoning people who been ex communicated for divorces, abortions.

Phuck merci! 🤘

I think he explicitly spoke about those who repent for their action. If a repentant multiple rapist can come back into the Church, you can conceive how a repentant abortist can do so too.

Originally posted by Star428
There are no contradictions in the bible. Anyone who is under that false assumption hasn't been granted understanding by God. Just keep in mind too, that a lot of the bible wasn't properly translated over to english from the original language.

For those who think the Bible is filled with contradictions:

https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/689-does-the-bible-contain-contradictions

http://christiananswers.net/q-comfort/contradictions-bible.html