Gefugee chops up 20 ppl with an axe on a train in Germany
Nobody killed, 20 injured. Terrorist was shot and killed by police as he tried to escape.
#Refugeelivesmatter
I find this topic incredibly difficult to morally process. Naturally I believe that people have a responsibility to as much as good as they can, so I do believe that refugees escaping war should be offered asylum, but there are plenty of other moral implications. For one, I think that asylum should in a best-case scenario be seen as a way of temporarily escaping danger of death, but if there's no country left to go back to, should you just kick out all of the people you said you'd look after? And when people in your own country become endangered, even though the threat comes from only a small percentage of the refugees, how should you approach that situation?
Neither option appeals to me, as it really is becoming a one-or-the-other type scenario. The world's kind of scary these days.
Originally posted by LuciusI assume that your title 'Transhumanist' means that you used to be a humanist, until you did away with that pesky little empathy thing and realised you actually didn't like humans at all.
It's almost as if... letting in a bunch of savages into your country is a bad idea. Arab and Muslim culture is hot garbage; let the barbarians slaughter each other. Nothing of value is lost.
Originally posted by Scribble
I assume that your title 'Transhumanist' means that you used to be a humanist, until you did away with that pesky little empathy thing and realised you actually didn't like humans at all.
That's not it. He's just mentally unstable if not full blown psychotic at this point. I believe he frequently (and publicly) wishes for the death of conservatives and Muslims. It's very sad. I don't think he knows what transhumanist means or at the very least, is trying to appear "different" and "intelligent", but I think he's just upset at his lot in life. I'd leave him alone.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseHe sounds like a rather mixed-up bloke. Thanks for the advice.
That's not it. He's just mentally unstable if not full blown psychotic at this point. I believe he frequently (and publicly) wishes for the death of conservatives and Muslims. It's very sad. I don't think he knows what transhumanist means or at the very least, is trying to appear "different" and "intelligent", but I think he's just upset at his lot in life. I'd leave him alone.
Originally posted by Scribble
I find this topic incredibly difficult to morally process. Naturally I believe that people have a responsibility to as much as good as they can, so I do believe that refugees escaping war should be offered asylum, but there are plenty of other moral implications. For one, I think that asylum should in a best-case scenario be seen as a way of temporarily escaping danger of death, but if there's no country left to go back to, should you just kick out all of the people you said you'd look after? And when people in your own country become endangered, even though the threat comes from only a small percentage of the refugees, how should you approach that situation?Neither option appeals to me, as it really is becoming a one-or-the-other type scenario. The world's kind of scary these days.
At the end of the day though should your own people not come first? There is somewhere that a line needs to be drawn. It's not a pleasant thought, and in order to avoid even having discussions about these things sometimes politicians just ignore them outright until the problem grows out of control.
Originally posted by SurturThat's pretty much where I've arrived at, of course your own countrymen and women should come first. It's just such a messed-up situation that any outcome seems dirty to me.
At the end of the day though should your own people not come first? There is somewhere that a line needs to be drawn. It's not a pleasant thought, and in order to avoid even having discussions about these things sometimes politicians just ignore them outright until the problem grows out of control.