Is he? I've heard some claims that Flash can move at lightspeed, but frankly haven't seen any evidence for it other than his name. It seems incredibly unlikely considering that Sonic, one of the series' faster characters, is only supersonic himself. If Flash is really a million times faster than him, you'd think that he'd be Rank 1.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
If that's the case, what makes you think Saitama is faster than 8G Gai?
Saitama did jump from the moon to the earth once.
Sorta like his punching, he doesn't max out on speed that we've seen either. A lot of the OPM characters have very impressive speed feats, but Saitama blows them away.
Originally posted by Q99
Saitama did jump from the moon to the earth once.Sorta like his punching, he doesn't max out on speed that we've seen either. A lot of the OPM characters have very impressive speed feats, but Saitama blows them away.
Everything that happened when he was on the moon happened in a split-second.
@ thread: Yeah, Saitama is FTL. He jumped from the moon to Earth in less than a second, and has moved much faster than that before.
He is superior to Gai in every way, when it comes to physical prowess/taijutsu.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
@Carver Truth Seeking Balls are arguably the most versatile fighting technique in Naruto, hence why they're reserved only for the top of the top class.They can take on any shape given that they have enough mass, they can take on any of the three states of matter, and they're far more potent than Oonoki's Particle Release, which dismantles objects on an an molecular scale. Unless you're coated in Senjutsu or possess Six Paths chakra, anything touched by a TSB is disintegrated as far as we know.
It was a variant of a TSB that Kaguya was going to use to destroy the Genesis World as well.
@Q99 Gai wouldn't have been able to land a blow on him if it weren't for Kakashi and Minato warping away the TSB's though.
Um... Are you forgetting that Gai broke through the TSB barrier that Madara made? You know, by slamming Madara through it? And don't forget that Tobirama grabbed a TSB out of the air, and teleported it away, proving that enough durability/strength can overcome them, as they aren't unlimited in terms of DC. And Tobirama didn't have sage, or six paths chakra.
And the reason they warped the TSB's away for Gai is so he could land a DIRECT hit, meaning on Madara, without having to break through the TSB's. Remember how the sheer pressure of Night Moth getting close to Madara's TSB rod BENT it, without even touching it? Yeah, Saitama's normal punches are more impressive than Night Moth, by a LARGE margin.
Um... Are you forgetting that Gai broke through the TSB barrier that Madara made? You know, by slamming Madara through it?
TSB effects don't apply to Madara, because he's Six Paths.
And the reason they warped the TSB's away for Gai is so he could land a DIRECT hit, meaning on Madara, without having to break through the TSB's. Remember how the sheer pressure of Night Moth getting close to Madara's TSB rod BENT it, without even touching it? Yeah, Saitama's normal punches are more impressive than Night Moth, by a LARGE margin.
The rod bent because Gai warped spacetime, not because his sheer force was high enough.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
TSB effects don't apply to Madara, because he's Six Paths.The rod bent because Gai warped spacetime, not because his sheer force was high enough.
Uh, what? That doesn't matter. You said that the TSB's can disintegrate anything, bearing senjutsu or rikudo chakra. This is clearly false, given the fact that Gai completely broke a TSB, with Night Moth. Meaning that sheer strength can overcome their vaporizing effect. It's just that Senjutsu and Rikudo chakra are highly resistant to it, like how a water type pokemon is resistant to fire type damage. FFS.
Um... You're high. Gai didn't warp space time, the pressure of Night moth simply bent the rod.
See? Madara said, "He distorted the space", meaning quite literally that he simply bent the rod with air pressure. This is further proven in the next scan.
Where we see the kick land, Gai has clearly broken the TSB rod in two, by kicking through it. Meaning he kicked with enough force to break the TSB, and had enough durability to bypass it's effect.
These two facts, coupled with the fact that Saitama is ridiculously more powerful than Gai, as well as faster and more durable, indisputably prove that Saitama would be unharmed by the TSB's, and be able to break them.
I could see his clothes getting tattered, but he'd otherwise remain uninterested, as he was against Boros, who was on Kaguya's level, in terms of DC.
Uh, what? That doesn't matter. You said that the TSB's can disintegrate anything, bearing senjutsu or rikudo chakra.
Right, and Madara possesses Rikudo Chakra, hence why he can touch the rods without being disintegrated.
That's why if he's kicked into a TSB, it could be breached.
Um... You're high. Gai didn't warp space time, the pressure of Night moth simply bent the rod.See? Madara said, "He distorted the space", meaning quite literally that he simply bent the rod with air pressure.
Uh, no, "He distorted the space" literally means, "he bent the space".
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Right, and Madara possesses Rikudo Chakra, hence why he can touch the rods without being disintegrated.That's why if he's kicked into a TSB, it could be breached.
Uh, no, "He distorted the space" literally means, "he bent the space".
But if Gai broke through the TSB with just his foot...? Yeah, you don't even have a point here. 👆
What do you think bending the space of something means? There was no mention of space-time continuum's, or whatever bull shit you claimed. He simply bent the space around the rod, with air pressure, which was strong enough to bend the rod itself. Proving that sheer force can bend/break TSB's, as well as overpower them.
The argument you're using here is the same thing as saying that Superman couldn't snap one of them, like a twig.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Yeah, you don't even have a point here. 👆
Yeah, I thought you were talking about something else, my bad here.
What do you think bending the space of something means?
I think it means bending space, not bending air.
Either way I don't think it matters all that much, though.
Proving that sheer force can bend/break TSB's, as well as overpower them.
I don't disagree. I'm saying they can't be physically touched by someone who doesn't possess Rikudo Chakra or Senjutsu.
But if Gai broke through the TSB with just his foot...?
No, that was the whole point of the "bending the space" panel. The reason he was able to get past the TSB at all is because he was moving fast enough that space distorted around him. His foot never came into contact with the rod, it bent around him and snapped.
Were that not the case, the rod would have simply slid through his leg as if it were a lightsaber.