Originally posted by Lestov16
Oh, I see. You have no interest in objective facts. Just what supports your close minded narrative. You are the king of confirmation bias.
So Uganda is relevant..try explaining that one. 😂
You ignore Iran's tyrannical regime, and say "But wait, in Africa!?!!!!??!?!??!!"
Like I said you have pulled this African argument before, no one cares what happens in Africa besides the French and Bill Gates depopulation agenda.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, wut?But I do like how you use Iran to blanket all Muslims, but refuse to apply the same rule to Christianity/countries. That's what a double-standard is, as you didn't know last time.
Liberals run off a double standard, so if you can't beat them, join them, because its sure to piss them off.
First off, you brought up the homosexuality subject by posting your tldr posts about Iran's homophobia, so don't know why you're coming at me.
Second off, you are right. It is irrelevant to my main point, which is that religion is subjective and no abrahamic religion is objectively good or evil. As stated, my dad, a devout Muslim, is neither misogynistic, homophobic, or in support of terrorism. So your claim that Islam is objectively evil is bullshit.
Originally posted by Lestov16
First off, you brought up the homosexuality subject by posting your tldr posts about Iran's homophobia, so don't know why you're coming at me.Second off, you are right. It is irrelevant to my main point, which is that religion is subjective and no abrahamic religion is objectively good or evil. As stated, my dad, a devout Muslim, is neither misogynistic, homophobic, or in support of terrorism. So your claim that Islam is objectively evil is bullshit.
Nope you brought up homosexuality, so quit lying.
So because your dad is Muslim, he is the standard for Islam?
Gotcha.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Aw look lest, more wrong..http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/12/iran-s-new-gay-executions.html
Iran's New Gay Executions
Conservatives may be the ones voicing the loudest outrage at the hanging of two gay Iranian men—but not because they’ve suddenly become supporters of LGBT human rights.
The tragic hanging of two “sodomites†in Iran may seem, in theory, like an obvious cause for U.S. concern and U.S. action. (Sign a petition! Demand human rights!) Yet in practice, those most attentive to LGBT concerns may be the least eager to pick this fight.As Nina Strochlic reported in these pages Sunday, the two men, Abdullah Ghavami Chahzanjiru and Salman Ghanbari Chahzanjiri, were hanged in southern Iran on August 6, possibly for consensual sodomy. Their deaths are part of a wave of executions in Iran, with more than 400 in the first half of 2014 alone, according to the NGO Iran Human Rights.
We do not know for certain that they were executed for being gay—one Iranian source says they were, another is vague about their “crimes†but calls them “immoral villains.†If these men were hanged for consensual homosexuality, however, this could be another LGBT headache for the Obama administration, which has been trying to walk a tightrope between LGBT human rights on one end and international politics on the other.
Despite Iran’s state anti-Semitism, the recent arrest of U.S. journalists, and the continued oppression of women, the Obama administration has been attempting a rapprochement with the Iranian regime. Fending off Iran hawks in Congress and the D.C. punditocracy, the administration has argued for a policy of constructive engagement, pursuing diplomacy over military action to halt Iran’s nuclear program. The execution of two gay men, while it may not be surprising, certainly doesn’t make that “engagement†any easier.Iran’s cooperation also is seen as essential to managing the chaos in Iraq and the Islamic State. With U.S. airstrikes against the Sunni militants, on-off (now definitely off) support of Iraq’s Shiite (ex-)Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, and the possible disintegration of Iraq, this cooperation—or at least not overt opposition—is surely of more strategic importance than the latest human rights abuse.
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M.reza Dehdari/Mehr News Agency
Conservatives who favor a hawkish foreign policy will claim otherwise, of course. In the topsy-turvy world that is international LGBT politics, Iran’s record on homosexuality is more a conservative cause than a liberal one. Just a few weeks ago, the House Foreign Affairs Committee held a hearing on human rights in Iran at which progressives such as Hossein Alizadeh of the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission testified about Iran’s hideous record of criminalization and persecution.But at that same hearing, some of the most vocal defenses of human rights came from Robert George—the intellectual father of the right-wing “religious liberty†movement and, domestically at least, a zealous opponent of LGBT equality—and Republican Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Chris Smith, and Ed Royce, who used Iran’s human rights record as evidence against the Obama administration’s policy of engagement.
You, making the subject about homosexuality.
did the diversion work? nope. there's still a topic.
Nope, you posted this first,
Nice lie
Originally posted by Lestov16
Such retards on here. Religion is ultimately subjective to the individual. If you gathered every Christian on Earth and asked them all what they believed God's will was, I guarantee you there will not be universally accepted answer. Same goes for Islam.All 3 of the holy books of the abrahamic religions endorse atrocities, and there are followers who either do or don't engage in such atrocities. Whether it's the misogyny of Islam or the homophobia of the bible, they all support some kind of human rights violation, but it is ultimately up to subjective belief of the follower whether they choose to perpetrate such acts.
As I stated before, yes some Muslim countries are misogynistic, but in others, there have been more female heads of state than in the United States. Similarly, some Christians are homophobic, but others, such as the pope himself, vilify such discrimination.
Again, no abrahamic religion can be objectively called good or evil. it's all in the subjective interpretation of the follower. So calling Islam a death cult is essentially saying all abrahamic religions, including Christianity, are death cults, because again, all of their holy books support atrocities.
Cede accepted
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
did the diversion work? nope. there's still a topic.
So he made a clock that looks like a bomb, imagine the hysteria if it was a bomb.