CNN GOP Debate

Started by Time-Immemorial27 pages

Honestly I have liked CNN for a long time but they have really shown their true faces here with this presidential race. I can no longer say they are the network they thought they were or used to be.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
It was actually on CNN, because no one watches CNBC unless it shark tank.

I think you're mistaken, TI. Prettty sure it was CNBC. It was channel 216 on my cable service. Just double checked my cable channels. 216 is CNBC.

Biggest reason I no longer trust CNN is mainly because of how they tried to get everyone to think the Oregon shooter was white to further their agenda.

Oh shit, you are right😂

And yes CNN has almost zero credibility right now.

What I wondering is why Hilary and Bernie refuse to debate in front of conservative moderators like Sean Hannity or Mark Levin.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Oh shit, you are right😂

And yes CNN has almost zero credibility right now.

What I wondering is why Hilary and Bernie refuse to debate in front of conservative moderators like Sean Hannity or Mark Levin.

Because liberals can't take it as well as they can dish it out that's why.

I think it was stupid on the the RNC to have two debates on liberal networks hosted by liberals.

I realize that pretty much professional journalism is dead, but at least try and fake being objective. Those idiots should resign as journalists and just work for the DNC..oh wait, they already do but a conflict of interest never stopped anyone from that side.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I think it was stupid on the the RNC to have two debates on liberal networks hosted by liberals.

I realize that pretty much professional journalism is dead, but at least try and fake being objective. Those idiots should resign as journalists and just work for the DNC..oh wait, they already do but a conflict of interest never stopped anyone from that side.


It's not like the FOX News debate went off without controversy. Republicans are just cantankerous. If you read the complaints of Democrats and Independents during the latest debates, people are wondering why the candidates got off so easy on topics like gun violence when the debate took place about 50 miles from Aurora, CO.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Honestly I have liked CNN for a long time but they have really shown their true faces here with this presidential race. I can no longer say they are the network they thought they were or used to be.

In the CNN democratic debate, they asked questions in the election like, "Bernie, you're a socialist, and polls says people hate socialism. Why do you think you can get elected?" And, "Secretary Clinton, you've changed your stance on things. Are you a progressive at all?" ?

CNN didn't softball the Democrats with their questions, nor during their first Republican debate go light on the Republicans.

They just didn't, y'know, blatantly try and play them against each other like CNBC did either. Which seemed like a cheap ratings ploy if anything.

The Reagan Library GOP debate (the one before this one) was a CNN one, and that one had notably better moderation than this one, I think everyone will agree. The Fox debate, ironically, got more grumblings from the candidates than the CNN debate, Megyn Kelly and all.

In total of the 12 Republican debates, three are CNN, three are Fox News, and other stations get one each (including Fox Business. Notably, none are at MSNBC, the liberal network). Shows the Republicans trust CNN to put together an orderly debate, second only to the pro-Republican Fox.

Of the 6 Democratic debates, all are at different stations. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, PBS, and, interestingly, Univision/the Washington Post. So, most are non affiliated networks, but a few in their corner.

I do note that in both cases, about 1/3rd are 'partisan/pro that party' ones, while 2/3rd are generally unaffiliated.

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Here's an interesting bit from the debate, where I think Kasich got some nice hits in-


When the subject did turn to substance, there was trouble, as when CNBC’s Becky Quick asked Carson to explain his tax plan, based on a 10 to 15 percent flat tax (Carson hasn’t decided) that would force at least a 40 percent cut in government.

“That’s not true,” Carson said, without evidence.

“That is true. I looked at the numbers,” Quick informed him.

“When we put all the facts down, you’ll be able to see that it’s not true. It works out very well,” Carson said.

Kasich pointed out the obvious: “This stuff is fantasy.”

“Folks, we’ve got to wake up,” Kasich said, arguing that Trump’s immigration proposals — deport 11 million people! — are equally fantastic.

Trump’s substantive response to Kasich? “His poll numbers tanked . . . and he got nasty.”

Kasich called two other candidates on hand-waving how they're going to do stuff, and got deflections.

It's too bad Kasich isn't doing better, he has way more substance than the likes of Jeb.

Kasich seemed desperate, didn't come off well at all, I think.

Although I agree, he has much more substance than the front-runners.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Kasich seemed desperate, didn't come off well at all, I think.

Although I agree, he has much more substance than the front-runners.

He is desperate. His numbers are trailing and he hasn't found a way to push himself into the head of the pack.

Still he is probably the only Republican candidate I would consider voting for. I know he can actually do some good for the economy and is more realistic in how he needs to operate.

Kasich is in a bad position, but at least he's fighting back. He's trying to get back in the game.

Jeb doesn't seem to have an idea of how to do so.

Kasich has zero chance of doing anything, after Trump called him out on being on the Board of lehman brothers, thats the end of the line for him.

Originally posted by Q99
In the CNN democratic debate, they asked questions in the election like, "Bernie, you're a socialist, and polls says people hate socialism. Why do you think you can get elected?" And, "Secretary Clinton, you've changed your stance on things. Are you a progressive at all?" ?

CNN didn't softball the Democrats with their questions, nor during their first Republican debate go light on the Republicans.

The fact that you think those two questions are hardball highlights why your political agenda is bias and completely hypocritical. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The fact that you think those two questions are hardball highlights why your political agenda is bias and completely hypocritical. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Is it even possible for someone who supports someone as criminal as Hillary to be ashamed of anything?

Well if polls truly say people hate socialists then I would say it is a valid question to ask. Likewise if Hilary has indeed jumped back and forth on her stance on certain things I would think it would be fair game to ask her about it.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well if polls truly say people hate socialists then I would say it is a valid question to ask. Likewise if Hilary has indeed jumped back and forth on her stance on certain things I would think it would be fair game to ask her about it.

I think everyone agrees that they are fair questions, however Republicans pretend like there weren't any hard or substantive questions in the Democratic debate, which is false.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well if polls truly say people hate socialists then I would say it is a valid question to ask. Likewise if Hilary has indeed jumped back and forth on her stance on certain things I would think it would be fair game to ask her about it.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think everyone agrees that they are fair questions, however Republicans pretend like there weren't any hard or substantive questions in the Democratic debate, which is false.

Biggest diff was that the Repubs didn't get to dictate those Hard Questions before hand unlike the Democrats...

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Biggest diff was that the Repubs didn't get to dictate those Hard Questions before hand unlike the Democrats... [/B]

Interesting, I haven't heard of that. You have evidence of this claim?

Yes.

Please share said evidence with the forum.