Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Ohhh You used the magic word. And since you asked in a polite way. I am free to say. No. You MAY not.Polite and Friendly.
Its just the way to do things.
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Okay, I guess we must conclude that you lied then.
At any rate, what we definitely know is that the Republicans are willing to punish journalists for asking tough question, for asking questions that they don't agree with. Mabe they should just conduct the debates themselves.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, I guess we must conclude that you lied then.At any rate, what we definitely know is that the Republicans are willing to punish journalists for asking tough question, for asking questions that they don't agree with. Mabe they should just conduct the debates themselves.
Just like the Democrats do.
And as you are the disbeliver. Its up to you to prove if I am lying or not.
I don't have to do it for you.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Just like the Democrats do.And as you are the disbeliver. Its up to you to prove if I am lying or not.
I don't have to do it for you.
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Lol, he won't be able to prove jack squat. Everyone in the news and talk radio says the exact opposite, the deck was stacked against the republicans, and the democrats got easy questions and then covered for each other.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lol, he won't be able to prove jack squat. Everyone in the news and talk radio says the exact opposite, the deck was stacked against the republicans, and the democrats got easy questions and then covered for each other.
Yes, but don't expect the likes of Bardock or Q99 to ever admit that. Even liberal sources admitted that the mods asked unfair questions because they knew they couldn't deny it when we all saw it with our own eyes and heard it with our own ears. They realized if they denied it after we all heard it then it would be proving the Republicans right regarding what they said about the bias in the mainstream media. People like Q and Bardock who keep claiming that "shit doesn't stink" (after we all smelled it during debate) remind me of when Rob said a couple days ago "Cruz only embarassed himself" (LMAO) despite the fact that the audience cheered him and his support went way up after debate. Q, Bardock, and Rob all seem to live in Bizarro World where up is down and down is up.
It's pretty sad when people are so far gone down the left that they are blinded to actual reality. They want their food stamps and welfare checks though at any cost so they'll keep stubbornly shaking their heads like mental patients and saying "nuh uh" when you try to explain to them the simple logic that shit really does stink. Some people are just a lost cause.
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Just like the Democrats do.And as you are the disbeliver. Its up to you to prove if I am lying or not.
I don't have to do it for you.
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lol
Originally posted by Star428
Yes, but don't expect the likes of Bardock or Q99 to ever admit that. Even liberal sources admitted that the mods asked unfair questions because they knew they couldn't deny it when we all saw it with our own eyes and heard it with our own ears. They realized if they denied it after we all heard it then it would be proving the Republicans right regarding what they said about the bias in the mainstream media. People like Q and Bardock who keep claiming that "shit doesn't stink" (after we all smelled it during debate) remind me of when Rob said a couple days ago "Cruz only embarassed himself" (LMAO) despite the fact that the audience cheered him and his support went way up after debate. Q, Bardock, and Rob all seem to live in Bizarro World where up is down and down is up.It's pretty sad when people are so far gone down the left that they are blinded to actual reality. They want their food stamps and welfare checks though at any cost so they'll keep stubbornly shaking their heads like mental patients and saying "nuh uh" when you try to explain to them the simple logic that shit really does stink. Some people are just a lost cause.
You know that the debates have partisan audiences. Everything that Hillary and Bernie said was also cheered for at the Democratic debate.
The moderators were incompetent, but they weren't unfair, they raised good points and the candidates talked all over them attacking each other and the media. They did phrase things in a way to make them attack each other, but they have been attacking each other all over the media, it would be silly to pretend they were all united.
Originally posted by Star428
Yes, but don't expect the likes of Bardock or Q99 to ever admit that. Even liberal sources admitted that the mods asked unfair questions because they knew they couldn't deny it when we all saw it with our own eyes and heard it with our own ears. They realized if they denied it after we all heard it then it would be proving the Republicans right regarding what they said about the bias in the mainstream media. People like Q and Bardock who keep claiming that "shit doesn't stink" (after we all smelled it during debate) remind me of when Rob said a couple days ago "Cruz only embarassed himself" (LMAO) despite the fact that the audience cheered him and his support went way up after debate. Q, Bardock, and Rob all seem to live in Bizarro World where up is down and down is up.It's pretty sad when people are so far gone down the left that they are blinded to actual reality. They want their food stamps and welfare checks though at any cost so they'll keep stubbornly shaking their heads like mental patients and saying "nuh uh" when you try to explain to them the simple logic that shit really does stink. Some people are just a lost cause.
Want to add that it wasn't just the questions themselves that annoyed the Republicans but also the general snarky tone of the moderators as well. Only someone who is hard of hearing wouldn't be able to understand that.
Originally posted by Star428
Want to add that it wasn't just the questions themselves that annoyed the Republicans but also the general snarky tone of the moderators as well. Only someone who is hard of hearing wouldn't be able to understand that.
Yes, they were the worst moderators of debates this season. Both Q99 and I have said as much repeatedly.
Originally posted by Star428
Bardock, I"m done arguing with your trolling this evening. You're clueless as usual on everything American-related and not worth my time or effort responding to.
That's okay, I don't think I would be able to convince you anyways, I just put the counterpoint, to your posts for others to read.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Presidents are not perfect, because they are people, and people do have a tendency to lie, cheat and steal.And in having strong convictions, determination and being a bit canny, as shown by some of these 'scandals', they may even be a positive. I think a crafty President is a good idea.
I'd prefer a President that doesn't need to lie or cheat in order to be crafty.
Presidents are not perfect, but when it comes to lying here is the thing: they can lie to themselves if they want. What they absolutely can't do is lie to the public. I really don't care what the lie has to do with either. If someone asks them something and they don't want to answer that is fine, but if they decide to answer it better be the truth. You may of heard the saying "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all". Well this time it is "if you can't speak the truth then keep your mouth closed".
Originally posted by Surtur
I'd prefer a President that doesn't need to lie or cheat in order to be crafty.Presidents are not perfect, but when it comes to lying here is the thing: they can lie to themselves if they want. What they absolutely can't do is lie to the public. I really don't care what the lie has to do with either. If someone asks them something and they don't want to answer that is fine, but if they decide to answer it better be the truth. You may of heard the saying "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all". Well this time it is "if you can't speak the truth then keep your mouth closed".
I do wanna mention, Here is a political factcheck site going after Hillary's statements. And they also go over others. And they don't merely give the rating, but you can check on each statement and their fact checking to double-check it for yourself.
So you can decide someone's actual truthfulness level, not the image that other people are trying to paint of them.
Hillary Clinton? Objects in mirror may not be as dishonest as generally projected. I mean, a 17-month investigation that, according to Republican congresspeople, was out to get her, failed to find the proof of the lies they were just sure were there. Says a lot.
Star428
Oh yeah, one more thing. Remember this:"Different people have different Opinions. But, they're clearly in the minority."? You posted that earlier today. Well, this time you and Q are clearly "in the minority".
On the quality of moderation thing? We're literally all agreed on CNBC being the worst. I mentioned several specific questions that were just horrible, and aren't even good hard/adversarial questions, they were simply trash. How can we be in the minority?
Star, you're trying to attack Bardock and I even when we're agreeing with you. You can't even admit when we're on the same side on a specific issue. I think you may have a problem 😛
Originally posted by Q99
I do wanna mention, Here is a political factcheck site going after Hillary's statements. And they also go over others. And they don't merely give the rating, but you can check on each statement and their fact checking to double-check it for yourself.So you can decide someone's actual truthfulness level, not the image that other people are trying to paint of them.
Hillary Clinton? Objects in mirror may not be as dishonest as generally projected. I mean, a 17-month investigation that, according to Republican congresspeople, was out to get her, failed to find the proof of the lies they were just sure were there. Says a lot.
What I said wasn't just about Hilary, but anyone who wants to be President. Since yes Presidents are people too and they do make mistakes. On the other hand Presidents should be held to a higher standard then most people. So while they might not be perfect..they have zero right to lie to the public.
I mean a lie about anything too lol. Obama says his favorite color is red, but it is actually blue? Nope, sorry, that ain't gonna fly. If you lie about stupid trivial shit lord knows what else one might lie about.
Originally posted by Surtur
What I said wasn't just about Hilary, but anyone who wants to be President. Since yes Presidents are people too and they do make mistakes. On the other hand Presidents should be held to a higher standard then most people. So while they might not be perfect..they have zero right to lie to the public.I mean a lie about anything too lol. Obama says his favorite color is red, but it is actually blue? Nope, sorry, that ain't gonna fly. If you lie about stupid trivial shit lord knows what else one might lie about.
Fair enough, but at the same time, they're failible. People slip in words and remember stuff wrong.
I care a lot more about if someone will provide good policy after thinking things over, than I do about if they mess up on words and statements sometimes.
Heck, I think most people on both sides ultimately prioritize similarly. Democrats made fun of George W. Bush's 'Bushisms,' but they ultimately weren't important.
Originally posted by Surtur
I'd prefer a President that doesn't need to lie or cheat in order to be crafty.Presidents are not perfect, but when it comes to lying here is the thing: they can lie to themselves if they want. What they absolutely can't do is lie to the public. I really don't care what the lie has to do with either. If someone asks them something and they don't want to answer that is fine, but if they decide to answer it better be the truth. You may of heard the saying "if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all". Well this time it is "if you can't speak the truth then keep your mouth closed".
You say "can't" with respect to lying to the public- but they can and do and even if exposed often get away with it. I don't think the public cares as much as you think.
I don't think this whole 'higher standard' thing has ever been more than a myth. The only thing they need to be is good at the job.
Depends on what he or she is lying about. IF it's something like what happened with Hillary in Benghazi then yes, you can bet we most certainly do care a great deal about the lying. Four Americans were killed. At least those of us who aren't liberals care which is a very large percentage of the population.