Vandar Tokare vs. Kanan Jarrus

Started by carthage4 pages

Vandar Tokare vs. Kanan Jarrus

Battle takes place in U2's tour bus

Force sabers all out

What has Vandar done besides be the leader of the Dantooine Jedi Council and survive the razing of the temple?

However, he still should be safely above the incredibly weak Kanan Jarrus, so yeah.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
However, he still should be safely above the incredibly weak Kanan Jarrus, so yeah.

"Incredibly weak"?

😂

He's got some great force feats in AND and he has defeated the Grand Inquisitor in a duel.

Kanan was able to move that big rock spiral in Rebels and also TK'd some AT-ST's. Although Vandar should beat him.

Vandar Tokare have not been depicted in combat situations so it is difficult to infer about his combat prowess. He is officially strong in the Force, capable of impressive feats and became the Grand Jedi Master of the Order in an era when Jedi were renowned for their competence. He is depicted conjuring a storm while meditating mid-air. Nothing much else.

He conjured up a storm?

Nope. Just lifted some pebbles.

😐

I had a feeling he was referring to that. Eh it doesn't matter, Vandar should have power-scaling going for him. Well, that's assuming Jedi/Sith of the KOTOR era did stuff like what Kanan did.

Vandar should be at least equal if not greater than Lucien Draay, Kanan gets schooled.

Originally posted by ares834
"Incredibly weak"?

😂

He's got some great force feats in AND and he has defeated the Grand Inquisitor in a duel.

He's still not even close to the top tier's.

Vader manhandled him and Ezra effortlessly, it was hilarious watching them trying to put up a fight.

I was kinda surprised when they pushed him back... till I remembered he was COMPLETELY distracted, and they didn't even push him that far.

He beat the Grand Inquisitor because of a few things, Jar'Kai, and circumstance.

The Inquisitor was literally a single step from dying, had he stepped back, he would've died, he had no room to move, what was he supposed to do? Jump over Kanan and risk getting sliced in half?

Secondly, everytime a combatant gets a hold of a second lightsaber, they SOMEHOW have this epic dueling skill, Sidious and Padawan Anakin, Ahsoka, and many others.

So what makes him "incredibly weak"? Or were you just talking out your ass like usual?

Originally posted by AncientPower
Vandar should be at least equal if not greater than Lucien Draay,.

Why?

Originally posted by ares834
Nope. Just lifted some pebbles.

😐


You can see the winds blowing and a large number of rocks being lifted in the back. The photo presents a distorted view of things. 😬

Maybe storm is a strong word but it is something.

Originally posted by ares834
So what makes him "incredibly weak"? Or were you just talking out your ass like usual?

Why?

What has Kanan done that is impressive besides moving some rocks, and beating the inquisitor?

Both these feats don't put him above Tokare.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Vandar Tokare have not been depicted in combat situations so it is difficult to infer about his combat prowess. He is officially strong in the Force, capable of impressive feats and became the Grand Jedi Master of the Order in an era when Jedi were renowned for their competence. He is depicted conjuring a storm while meditating mid-air. Nothing much else.

He's not confirmed as the Order's Grand Master, but he's confirmed as one of the Order's most powerful beings and he's more powerful than Vrook etc.

On top of that, he knows Sever Force, so he probably wins via that here lol

Originally posted by ares834
Why?

Being called one of the most renowned and venerable Masters in the entire Jedi Order. Coupled with Bastila calling him and the others the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy and even his own Council members calling him their wisest.

He's clearly the most knowledgeable and wisest in the Order to boot, Lucien Draay whilst having been a Jedi High Council member once still deferred to his betters.

There is also the fact Master Vandar not only survived the Sith attack on Dantooine but escaped and led the Order from that point onwards.

Lucien Draay is the most solid depiction of any KOTOR Jedi Master and so he is for me a good benchmark to rank the others by.

Quite simply, none of that indicates Vandar is Lucein's equal in battle. Wiser sure, but more powerful... Eh.

I also find it curious that you use Lucien as the benchmark for KotOR Jedi Masters rather than any of the other members in the Taris Enclave.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Being called one of the most renowned and venerable Masters in the entire Jedi Order. Coupled with Bastila calling him and the others the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy and even his own Council members calling him their wisest.

Where do they call him the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy?

Bastila calls all of the Dantooine enclave masters some of the most powerful in the galaxy.