RotS Anakin vs. SoR Revan

Originally posted by The_Tempest
FYI, Dave said the spirits of Revan and Bane were pulled from TCW because George declared that Sith could not exist in spirit form.

Just food for thought about all the Sith Lords who do that, Palpatine included.

1) I personally don't think its fair to ignore the entire novel. Parts that directly contradict with the movie should be approached that way though.
2) Contradicting something GL said isn't as unacceptable as contradicting the movie itself. Especially since he isn't in charge now.
3) Wouldn't you say Palpatine falls to another category as a Sith Spirit?

Hey, I'm not arguing with you, just throwing some things out there for everybody's edification.

Filoni again goes on record at least one other time at great length about how physical death is the end for Sith in his StarWars.com interview about the Clone Wars. Part 2, I think.

I'd say it's pretty well codified into canon. 👍

{this is why the ghosts on Moraband are actually just illusions crafted by the dark side and the Priestesses. Sith spirits as we know them don't exist canonically.}

Lucas' dealings with the more esoteric aspects of Start Wars is absolutely disgusting, though. Talzin's entire concept comes to mind. Not to mention all his contradictions. I won't say he's wrong, but it is pretty stupid.

I don't think that's stupid. I think it adds to the Sith valuing Life above all else, and why the Jedi can accept death whilst the Sith can't.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Hey, I'm not arguing with you, just throwing some things out there for everybody's edification.

Filoni again goes on record at least one other time at great length about how physical death is the end for Sith in his StarWars.com interview about the Clone Wars. Part 2, I think.

I'd say it's pretty well codified into canon. 👍

{this is why the ghosts on Moraband are actually just illusions crafted by the dark side and the Priestesses. Sith spirits as we know them don't exist canonically.}

Good point. While its clearly canon information, I have to agree with Freshest as well. Especially the Ancient Sith is built on things like that.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I don't think that's stupid. I think it adds to the Sith valuing Life above all else, and why the Jedi can accept death whilst the Sith can't.

I think the Mortis trilogy was weird AF but I agree with DP that the notion that Sith can't survive death hence the various ways they desperately try to fend it off is cool.

Regarding the rest, it's just Legends contradicting canon.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
and most Jedi don't become ghosts, and in fact don't even know that they can?

All the Jedi believe in an afterlife where they join or become part of the living force. They just were not aware they could keep their individual identity on top.

Which is the only thing involving spirits, though, so it's the only thing that's relevant. There's also that fact that no, most of them can't do it, from what we know of the process.

Yeah, if that's the case Thor, why would how that add to the "Sith valuing Life above all else, and why the Jedi can accept death whilst the Sith can't." ?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I think the Mortis trilogy was weird AF but I agree with DP that the notion that Sith can't survive death hence the various ways they desperately try to fend it off is cool.

Regarding the rest, it's just Legends contradicting canon.

This concept can be changed imo. Like Freshest said, before we believed light side was the natural side and dark side was a sickness in the Force. Now there is the whole balance thing going. The Spirit thing is a similar case. With the parts of the novel that differ from the movie, the contradiction is much more specific and direct.

Not sure what you mean. The contradiction is pretty clear. Sith spirits don't exist canonically.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Stigma, for this battle, are we counting Anakin's ROTS novel feats or nah?

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
Not sure what you mean. The contradiction is pretty clear. Sith spirits don't exist canonically.

Not really, no. Chillax. You're talking about changing a canon concept?

Im talking about the vagueness of the concept at hand compared to the parts of the novel.

Is this about giving Sidious the "too fast for Anakin to perceive" feat? If you can honestly justify that with a better argument, I'd be more than happy to support it.

Originally posted by Sinious
Yeah, if that's the case Thor, why would how that add to the "Sith valuing Life above all else, and why the Jedi can accept death whilst the Sith can't." ?

Because the Jedi accept an afterlife, becoming part of the living force (whether coming back in ghost form or not).

The Sith don't. To them Life is everything. And even a miserable existence is superior to Non-Existance for them.