Originally posted by One-Punch
Galactus was the first to take on the GE, and was the last man standing after the Celestials fled or were killed. And your take away on that is he's just more stubborn?😂
It clearly shows Galactus is more powerful than the Celestials who fled.
And it was stated by Surfer that Galactus and the Celestials were fighting the GE on multiple planes of existence that mortal minds couldn't comprehend.
No, it doesn't. It just shows Galactus was more stubborn. He had zero effect on engine, just as Celestials did.
Exactly. Off panel fight.
Originally posted by One-Punch
So here's Quasar and Nova asking why 616 Cosmics and the GE look like they're just having a stand-off and not doing anything (basically what you said abhi).
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/35308/2029836-thanimp_3_peterwatts_cps_004.jpgSurfer explains they're actually fighting on an [b]abstract scale
and they (puny mortals) couldn't perceive it until the consequences:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/35308/2029838-thanimp_3_peterwatts_cps_005.jpgAnd one of the consequences is Aegis randomly exploding and dying.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/57845/1325853-headsplosion.jpg [/B]
Aegis wasn't Galactus level then, right?
Originally posted by One-Punch
I'm not making a comment about who would win in this fight, I was addressing abhi's comment that the average Celestial is a level above Galactus, which I disagree with.
Fair enough. Tbh it wasn't all directed at you, I just started expressing my thoughts.
It wasn't always the case but currently Galactus is on the level of an average Celestial. You can't deny that evidence.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
While I don't agree with everything he's said, I think his point is that Celestials standing in the cosmic hierarchy has changed significantly which probably accounts as to why Starlin's pecking order was written as this:Not saying I agree, but the thought of Odin or Galactus (No offense) being in the same tier as a Celestial was not possible at the time of their introduction into Marvel.
And I think you are intelligent enough to realize why comparing the Destroyer's fight against the Fourth Host to Galactus' against the Mad Celestials isn't an accurate representation. If the World Eater was fighting side by side with the Destroyer during that story, he'd have had his anus violated just as badly if not worse.
A simple enough enchantment Odin forged can completely f*ck up any Celestial, even Exitar. Such a feat would be an unimaginable at the time of Thor #300, that includes Galactus taking on 4 crazy Celestials and living, much less holding his own.
But that's just me, canon is canon and nothing can change that. Adopting such a rigid viewpoint however limits your options.
As it stands right now, Odin in the Destroyer armor was implied to be more than a match against Galactus in Fraction's story IIRC (Been a while since I read that run). Which is probably accurate based on their fight (Galactus is more powerful, but they are on the same level). With all the power of Asgard and it's denizens inside of it, I think he'd stomp Galactus 90% of the time unless he was significantly powered up.
Unless you believe Galactus to be on a completely different level than Odin in power. Which some people do, although I disagree with this interpretation.
What makes you so sure celestials are above galactus exactly? Odin in the destroyer was never said to be a match for galactus,the asgardians like volstagg assumed galactus fled when he entered the destroyer.
Just because enchantments can make a weapon harm a celestial dosent take away their power,galactus has been shown on panel to be above celestials.
The destroyer ciould do anything to a single celestial,who blocked its strongest attack with one arm.
Any one who isn't a retard knows galactus dwarfs odin by a margin.
I guess the reason for this thread was for me one Destroyer is made of Uru so he should be damn near Indestructible should at this size should be near as strong as most high level cosmic aka Galactus and it should seems to me Galan would have stamina issues in form of power level if the fight lasted for a bit.
Originally posted by golem370
it should seems to me Galan would have stamina issues in form of power level if the fight lasted for a bit.
He was the last man standing vs the Galactus Engine. This thing drove away 12+ Celestials, Tenebrous, and Aegis. Odin and the Destroyer wouldn't last 10 seconds vs that thing.
Galactus wins.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
It can put up a good fight. But will lose. People like to act like Galan is way out of Odins league. He is only moderately out of Odins league. Galan should win every time but he is going to have to work for it.
Originally posted by Genii96
Last time they fought odin got his ass KO'd when he headbutted galactus,and had to enter the odin sleep and still could barely stand...galactus didn't even have to throw a punch...and he was operating at levels where a hit from thor actually made him feel something...a well fed galactus backhands odin
I know. Galactus wins 10/10. But Odin has always been able to put up an actual fight with Galactus. Asgardian magic and items have always been able to cancel or negate the power cosmic in some form or fashion. And since this is a fist fight, I think there will be a decent little scrap before the Destroyer falls. Which it will. I just dont think its gonna be a one shot, just like I dont think the Destroyer wins a single match.
Originally posted by Genii96
Last time they fought odin got his ass KO'd when he headbutted galactus,and had to enter the odin sleep and still could barely stand...galactus didn't even have to throw a punch...and he was operating at levels where a hit from thor actually made him feel something...a well fed galactus backhands odin
Yes, that encounter showed us that Thor can inflict serious harm upon a well-fed Galactus, if the latter is momentarily distracted.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I know. Galactus wins 10/10. But Odin has always been able to put up an actual fight with Galactus. Asgardian magic and items have always been able to cancel or negate the power cosmic in some form or fashion. And since this is a fist fight, I think there will be a decent little scrap before the Destroyer falls. Which it will. I just dont think its gonna be a one shot, just like I dont think the Destroyer wins a single match.
Originally posted by Magnon
Yes, that encounter showed us that Thor can inflict serious harm upon a well-fed Galactus, if the latter is momentarily distracted.