Originally posted by SunRazer
He has being better than Sidious 😉
Mace takes Sabers, but Vader makes him work for it.
Vader takes Force round quite solidly.
All Out I'm thinking it can go either way, so a Split. But maybe a slight majority to Vader. Mace has put Sidious on his ass once, but Vader's Powerful enough to crush an AT-AT.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Why not?
Vader doesn't have as much of a dark signature as Sidious. I won't say his inner darkness wouldn't be as high either, due to Anakin you know, cutting off his hand, and I'm not sure how Mace equates getting his arm cut off versus his trust of a government he served for a long time being run by a Sith Lord.
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Vader doesn't have as much of a dark signature as Sidious.
Doubt there would a huge gap tbh. Considering how ridiculously powerful Vader is, on top of the level of rage and anger he has powering him
Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I won't say his inner darkness wouldn't be as high either, due to Anakin you know, cutting off his hand, and I'm not sure how Mace equates getting his arm cut off versus his trust of a government he served for a long time being run by a Sith Lord.
Well there is the fact that Anakin betrayed him and the entire Jedi Order.
That has to build a lot of inner darkness.
Agreed,I still say Mace Windu.
Whether Vader has a dark signature or not.
He still uses the dark side. and thats more than enough for Vaapad.
Mace isn't no push over with Force Powers either.
I wouldn't say Vader takes it all.
But if Vader does gets the edge in Force powers then that's all
bc as long as he's calling on the dark side,rage, hatred,then Vaapad channels and reflects.
Vader's a tank, I get that.even tanks have a weakness.
Just how long can Vader call on the darkside to keep him alive before Mace kills him?
This is what I'm asking,
ShatterPoint detects weakness in the armor,
no matter how many times Vader upgrades the armor,
The lfe support systems in the armor are still the shatterpoint.
Windu crushes life support w/Force crush or shatterpoint or saber,
Vader is forced to do what? Call on the dark side to sustain him.
Which is what Mace wants.
remember the longer he calls on the dark side the better for Vaapad.
I know Vader can take punishment,so can Mace.
The question is how long can he last without his life support?
bc all Mace has to do is wait, Vaapad is sustaining him he can still fight as long as
Vader can. This is for any era of Vader how long can he last before he suffocates?
Palpaptine said it himself he weakened Vader's armor on purpose to keep him from rebeling.
Even Palpaptine knows how to kill Vader.
I know he's a cyborg,true but a cyborg that's still human.
take out his life support systems, his iron lungs
He's fueled by hatred and the darkside,This is the only thing keeping him alive.
This powers Vaapad,along with Mace's inner darkness and Anakin's betrayal.
Might not be close to Sidious but its still dark side energy and that's all it takes.
Vader dies either of suffocation or decapitation.
It won't be easy.
Vader is gonna make him work for it.
Vader is gonna punish Mace.
Both of these men can take a beating.
The latter has too many shatterpoints.
Neither man is invincible or immune to shatterpoints.
Vader will do his best to protect his life support systems,
but in the end imo. It won't be enough.
Again,this just my opinion. With all due respect,
I do respect, everybodys thoughts,replies ,opinions.
All I ask in return that you respect mine as well.
If it was easy for Mace,then it wouldn't be fun.
It would be unsatisfying. Yet he would find some satisfaction in it.
Vader did cut off his saber hand. and left him for dead.
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Agreed,I still say Mace Windu.
Whether Vader has a dark signature or not.
He still uses the dark side. and thats more than enough for Vaapad.Mace isn't no push over with Force Powers either.
I wouldn't say Vader takes it all.But if Vader does gets the edge in Force powers then that's all
bc as long as he's calling on the dark side,rage, hatred,then Vaapad channels and reflects.Vader's a tank, I get that.even tanks have a weakness.
Just how long can Vader call on the darkside to keep him alive before Mace kills him?
This is what I'm asking,ShatterPoint detects weakness in the armor,
no matter how many times Vader upgrades the armor,
The lfe support systems in the armor are still the shatterpoint.Windu crushes life support w/Force crush or shatterpoint or saber,
Vader is forced to do what? Call on the dark side to sustain him.
Which is what Mace wants.remember the longer he calls on the dark side the better for Vaapad.
I know Vader can take punishment,so can Mace.
The question is how long can he last without his life support?bc all Mace has to do is wait, Vaapad is sustaining him he can still fight as long as
Vader can. This is for any era of Vader how long can he last before he suffocates?Palpaptine said it himself he weakened Vader's armor on purpose to keep him from rebeling.
Even Palpaptine knows how to kill Vader.I know he's a cyborg,true but a cyborg that's still human.
take out his life support systems, his iron lungs
He's fueled by hatred and the darkside,This is the only thing keeping him alive.This powers Vaapad,along with Mace's inner darkness and Anakin's betrayal.
Might not be close to Sidious but its still dark side energy and that's all it takes.
Vader dies either of suffocation or decapitation.It won't be easy.
Vader is gonna make him work for it.
Vader is gonna punish Mace.
Both of these men can take a beating.The latter has too many shatterpoints.
Neither man is invincible or immune to shatterpoints.
Vader will do his best to protect his life support systems,but in the end imo. It won't be enough.
Again,this just my opinion. With all due respect,I do respect, everybodys thoughts,replies ,opinions.
All I ask in return that you respect mine as well.
If it was easy for Mace,then it wouldn't be fun.It would be unsatisfying. Yet he would find some satisfaction in it.
Vader did cut off his saber hand. and left him for dead.