Silver Surfer vs Superman w/stips

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Not one thing here even remotely suggests that HV will go through Silver Surfer "like a hot knife through butter."

Under these stips, once again, Silver Surfer wins easily every time.

Originally posted by h1a8
wow, so you are ignoring on panel evidence. I just showed Superman hv doing stuff beyond anything Surfer has tanked. And Superman still can't hurt him? I just proved that if hv can go through a being with greater durability feats like a hot knife though butter then it can surfer.
Stop trolling and debate by rebutting the evidence by providing counter evidence and not just ignoring evidence. If you have any feats by Surfer to prove he can withstand temperatures thousands of times hotter than a star (not even Planck temperature) then please do so.

Originally posted by h1a8
wow, so you are ignoring on panel evidence. I just showed Superman hv doing stuff beyond anything Surfer has tanked. And Superman still can't hurt him? I just proved that if hv can go through a being with greater durability feats like a hot knife though butter then it can surfer.
Stop trolling and debate by rebutting the evidence by providing counter evidence and not just ignoring evidence. If you have any feats by Surfer to prove he can withstand temperatures thousands of times hotter than a star (not even Planck temperature) then please do so.

Well, you are the trolling expert.

HV'ing the absolute 0 freeze ray would be the ultimate feat IRL; not so much in a comic. Is Captain Cold's gun supposed to be some sort of skyfather level weapon now?

HV thousands of times hotter than the sun? Huge reach there. I say BS

HV Repairing a rip in reality and being hotter than the pits of Hades. What do these things even mean or matter in the scenario?

Area of effect HV and melting Thor's axe. Meh

Moving a planet. Meh

I know that arguing with you about anything Superman-related is a massive waste of time but I figured I'd respond since you took the time to post those scans. I Didn't, nor have I ever, seen a single thing that suggests that HEAT vision can burn though Silver Surfer like a hot knife through butter.

Surfer wins 10/10

Agree to disagree.

As usual h1 has no idea what he's talking about:

That heating the planet feat was a sundipped Superman.

That repairing the rip in reality feat was when Superman and Orion had their size altered to abstract sizes via the Boomtube. They were so big that planets were literally the size of "specks" of dust, and Superman said at his normal size he'd be a microbe.

Also none of H1's scans show Superman's HV cutting through high heralds like butter, lol.

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Well, you are the trolling expert.

HV'ing the absolute 0 freeze ray would be the ultimate feat IRL; not so much in a comic. Is Captain Cold's gun supposed to be some sort of skyfather level weapon now?

HV thousands of times hotter than the sun? Huge reach there. I say BS

HV Repairing a rip in reality and being hotter than the pits of Hades. What do these things even mean or matter in the scenario?

Area of effect HV and melting Thor's axe. Meh

Moving a planet. Meh

I know that arguing with you about anything Superman-related is a massive waste of time but I figured I'd respond since you took the time to post those scans. I Didn't, nor have I ever, seen a single thing that suggests that HEAT vision can burn though Silver Surfer like a hot knife through butter.

Surfer wins 10/10

Agree to disagree.

Every feat from Surfer is Meh.

Superman wins 10/10.

Agree to disagree.

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If Surfer can't win a blasting fight against Superman then an all out fight, Superman should slaughter him 10/10. Don't get it. Blasting is Surfers game. It's what he does. How can he not beat a Herald in a battle like this. Superman is either trans tier...high trans or he is getting wanked like hell here.

Originally posted by One-Punch
As usual h1 has no idea what he's talking about:

That heating the planet feat was a sundipped Superman.

That repairing the rip in reality feat was when Superman and Orion had their size altered to abstract sizes via the Boomtube. They were so big that planets were literally the size of "specks" of dust, and Superman said at his normal size he'd be a microbe.

The size of the rip was that big too.

Did him getting bigger somehow made HV more powerful?

Also none of H1's scans show Superman's HV cutting through high heralds like butter, lol.

Zod's HV easily pierced Superman. Even Chris Kent as a kid Blasted through Zod's hand like butter.

Do you think Zod or Chris Kent have more powerful heat vision attack or Superman isn't a high Herald?

Originally posted by carver9
If Surfer can't win a blasting fight against Superman then an all out fight, Superman should slaughter him 10/10. Don't get it. Blasting is Surfers game. It's what he does. How can he not beat a Herald in a battle like this. Superman is either trans tier...high trans or he is getting wanked like hell here.

Surfer doesn't has what it takes to ko Superman before he can KO Surfer.

Originally posted by One-Punch
As usual h1 has no idea what he's talking about:

That heating the planet feat was a sundipped Superman.

That repairing the rip in reality feat was when Superman and Orion had their size altered to abstract sizes via the Boomtube. They were so big that planets were literally the size of "specks" of dust, and Superman said at his normal size he'd be a microbe.

Also none of H1's scans show Superman's HV cutting through high heralds like butter, lol.

Ok. Why nitpick when this doesn't destroy the others?
Prove that Surfer can tank heat beyond thousands of times hotter than a star.
I posted a scan of hv going through Superman like a hot knife through butter. Superman isn't a high Herald now? Superman has the same feats of resisting heat as Surfer (possibly better).

And it's funny how many give Marvel characters the benefit of the doubt (no feats) and not D.C.character. Superman melted a gods magical axe (Thor) yet it doesn't count to proving HV can hurt Surfer?

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Well, you are the trolling expert.

HV'ing the absolute 0 freeze ray would be the ultimate feat IRL; not so much in a comic. Is Captain Cold's gun supposed to be some sort of skyfather level weapon now?

HV thousands of times hotter than the sun? Huge reach there. I say BS

HV Repairing a rip in reality and being hotter than the pits of Hades. What do these things even mean or matter in the scenario?

Area of effect HV and melting Thor's axe. Meh

Moving a planet. Meh

I know that arguing with you about anything Superman-related is a massive waste of time but I figured I'd respond since you took the time to post those scans. I Didn't, nor have I ever, seen a single thing that suggests that HEAT vision can burn though Silver Surfer like a hot knife through butter.

Surfer wins 10/10

Agree to disagree.

Man on Earth can create temperatures and also lasers that can reach thousands of times hotter than the sun. Yet the scan I posted said that Superman's hv is beyond anything they can measure. Surfer simply has no feats on that level.
I showed hv going through Superman like a hot knife through butter. Superman has the same feats (or better) than Surfer in resisting heat. So why still disagree? You are simply ignoring on panel evidence. At least give a counter feat that shows Surfer durability withstanding Superman's output.

Originally posted by carver9
If Surfer can't win a blasting fight against Superman then an all out fight, Superman should slaughter him 10/10. Don't get it. Blasting is Surfers game. It's what he does. How can he not beat a Herald in a battle like this. Superman is either trans tier...high trans or he is getting wanked like hell here.

Originally posted by h1a8
Surfer has Superman's weakness which is red solar radiation. Without that Superman would win 10/10

Didn't read.

BTW, punching through heralds like butter.

Question ABHI. Doomsday ripped apart the same probes. Do you think Doomsday could one shot kill Superman in the same fashion? Punching his head off...etc.

Originally posted by abhilegend
The size of the rip was that big too.

Did him getting bigger somehow made HV more powerful?

Zod's HV easily pierced Superman. Even Chris Kent as a kid Blasted through Zod's hand like butter.

Do you think Zod or Chris Kent have more powerful heat vision attack or Superman isn't a high Herald?

Those are Zod and Chris Kent's feats, not transferable to Superman. A blood-lusted Superman couldn't pierce through Wonder Woman's face (only to her bones) with his HV and it didn't stop her. I guess Diana's face is more durable than those particular probes lol.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ok. Why nitpick when this doesn't destroy the others?
Prove that Surfer can tank heat beyond thousands of times hotter than a star.
I posted a scan of hv going through Superman like a hot knife through butter. Superman isn't a high Herald now? Superman has the same feats of resisting heat as Surfer (possibly better).

And it's funny how many give Marvel characters the benefit of the doubt (no feats) and not D.C.character. Superman melted a gods magical axe (Thor) yet it doesn't count to proving HV can hurt Surfer?

Man on Earth can create temperatures and also lasers that can reach thousands of times hotter than the sun. Yet the scan I posted said that Superman's hv is beyond anything they can measure. Surfer simply has no feats on that level.
I showed hv going through Superman like a hot knife through butter. Superman has the same feats (or better) than Surfer in resisting heat. So why still disagree? You are simply ignoring on panel evidence. At least give a counter feat that shows Surfer durability withstanding Superman's output.

Nothing in your post suggest Superman's HV is thousands of times hotter than the sun. Whats funny is Surfer has literally said that he's basked in the glow of a thousand suns after no-selling a blast from Korvac that would incinerate a planet.

Another person's HV going through Superman doesn't mean Superman gets that feat. Feats aren't transferable.

Melting DC's Thor's axe doesn't mean much, it's not like it's equal to Marvel Thor's Mjolnir which has a laundry list of feats under it. So what durability feats does that axe have?

Sure later on I'll give instances later on of people no-selling Superman's heat vision and citing heat resistance as the reason.

Surfer's heat and energy durability is top-notch. Not only is he durable and virtually immune to heat, he can choose to absorb the HV to make himself stronger (like he's done numerous times), or use his silvery skin to reflect it (like he's done numerous times).

Originally posted by h1a8
Man on Earth can create temperatures and also lasers that can reach thousands of times hotter than the sun. Yet the scan I posted said that Superman's hv is beyond anything they can measure. Surfer simply has no feats on that level. I showed hv going through Superman like a hot knife through butter. Superman has the same feats (or better) than Surfer in resisting heat. So why still disagree? You are simply ignoring on panel evidence. At least give a counter feat that shows Surfer durability withstanding Superman's output.

You take the real-life idea that Man can produce temperatures and lasers "thousands of times hotter than the sun", combine that with the statement of a reporter in a comic book, and insist that this is proof that that heat vision will burn right through Silver Surfer?

So, you are suggesting that Man on Earth can make weapons to incinerate SS with? And by extension, the other more advanced and warlike races in the Marvel Universe could do the same or better? So, SS should be one-shot by any random enemy soldier with a laser gun, right? Geez, how has Silver Surfer survived this long with so many instant death rays everywhere?

I didn't ignore anything. I am just not twisting scenes and making huge leaps to make Superman appear all-powerful and unbeatable. He is neither. Throwing out equations or statements like "thousands of times hotter than the sun" is not convincing me otherwise.

Also, take that reporters words with a pinch of salt. I mean, if we're using RL logic, its not as if our news reporters don't use sensationalism and hyperbole, eh?

Not sure about this one. I recall Surfer being cut up like cheese squares by a laser. I've completely forgotten the full context as I read it a very long time ago, so I'm not sure if the Surfer was weakened during that scene? However, I do recall that he was still able to function even in that state.

He was. He had his power cosmic drained. When he got it back he instantly healed his chopped up limbs.

On numerous occasions in the comics people have no-sold or tanked Superman's heat vision and cited heat resistance as the reason:

Lobo no-sells Superman's HV and says it's 'cause he can "ride through the heat of blazing suns."
http://s13.postimg.org/osc1wl3pj/P00121.jpg

Captain Metamorpho no-sells the HV via turning his chest into asbestos, which is heat resistance material:
http://s13.postimg.org/9xs1w5jif/P00049.jpg

Brute was able to tank the HV and Superman cites his heat resistance since they're beside the sun:
http://s13.postimg.org/abtdvr3lz/P00045.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/iouhcodfr/P00046.jpg

Doide no-sells the HV saying it's cause his armour is made of the same heat resistant tiles as the space shuttle:
http://postimg.org/image/w71doypkz/

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Surfer's pretty damn resistant to heat based energy.

Supernovae...
http://i.imgur.com/JAjQw9q.png

Are...
http://i.imgur.com/KUACx2C.jpg

Nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/lZ0n50N.jpg

To...
http://s4.postimg.org/qlrx4c3tp/Silver_Surfer_1988_009_18.jpg

Surfer...
http://s21.postimg.org/l3k2257jb/Supernovae.png

Galactus deliberately made Surfer's skin able to withstand the "hottest" sun.
http://s8.postimg.org/81madwr5h/silversurfer01_34.jpg

Can fly through stars like nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/hPmBIvE.jpg

Again suns are nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/XYULSOr.jpg

Even a red giant star with "planet melting heat" is nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/3yQc4pV.jpg

Surfer can't even feel the sun's plasmic embers on his skin despite being inside the sun.
http://i.imgur.com/CvbkKSo.jpg

Core of planets are also nothing either.
http://i.imgur.com/Nd8GRZ2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fYsqKGY.jpg

No-sells Korvac's cosmic bolt that can reduce a world to cinders. Superman need to sundipp just to heat up Earth.
http://i.imgur.com/YdaxMmX.jpg

Shrugs off Gladiator's heat vision point black in his face:
http://s18.postimg.org/ckqkvha95/image.jpg

Can absorb or deflect a near-infinite amount of Firelord's fire. Note: Firelord's heat is based on Galactus' alien science.
http://i.imgur.com/3Jp2jTn.jpg

Unfazed by Nova's (herald) flames inside a machine that uses her heat against her:
http://imgur.com/a/NorqD#6

I've never really seen heat based attacks affect Surfer except maybe Firelord, but his heat isn't regular heat--it's based of Galactus' alien science and is actually cosmic energy. Surfer should tank/absorb/reflect HV just fine.

Originally posted by One-Punch
On numerous occasions in the comics people have no-sold or tanked Superman's heat vision and cited heat resistance as the reason:

Lobo no-sells Superman's HV and says it's 'cause he can "ride through the heat of blazing suns."
http://s13.postimg.org/osc1wl3pj/P00121.jpg

Captain Metamorpho no-sells the HV via turning his chest into asbestos, which is heat resistance material:
http://s13.postimg.org/9xs1w5jif/P00049.jpg

Brute was able to tank the HV and Superman cites his heat resistance since they're beside the sun:
http://s13.postimg.org/abtdvr3lz/P00045.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/iouhcodfr/P00046.jpg

Doide no-sells the HV saying it's cause his armour is made of the same heat resistant tiles as the space shuttle:
http://postimg.org/image/w71doypkz/

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Surfer's pretty damn resistant to heat based energy.

Supernovae...
http://i.imgur.com/JAjQw9q.png

Are...
http://i.imgur.com/KUACx2C.jpg

Nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/lZ0n50N.jpg

To...
http://s4.postimg.org/qlrx4c3tp/Silver_Surfer_1988_009_18.jpg

Surfer...
http://s21.postimg.org/l3k2257jb/Supernovae.png

Galactus deliberately made Surfer's skin able to withstand the "hottest" sun.
http://s8.postimg.org/81madwr5h/silversurfer01_34.jpg

Can fly through stars like nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/hPmBIvE.jpg

Again suns are nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/XYULSOr.jpg

Even a red giant star with "planet melting heat" is nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/3yQc4pV.jpg

Surfer can't even feel the sun's plasmic embers on his skin despite being inside the sun.
http://i.imgur.com/CvbkKSo.jpg

Core of planets are also nothing either.
http://i.imgur.com/Nd8GRZ2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fYsqKGY.jpg

No-sells Korvac's cosmic bolt that can reduce a world to cinders. Superman need to sundipp just to heat up Earth.
http://i.imgur.com/YdaxMmX.jpg

Shrugs off Gladiator's heat vision point black in his face:
http://s18.postimg.org/ckqkvha95/image.jpg

Can absorb or deflect a near-infinite amount of Firelord's fire. Note: Firelord's heat is based on Galactus' alien science.
http://i.imgur.com/3Jp2jTn.jpg

Unfazed by Nova's (herald) flames inside a machine that uses her heat against her:
http://imgur.com/a/NorqD#6

I've never really seen heat based attacks affect Surfer except maybe Firelord, but his heat isn't regular heat--it's based of Galactus' alien science and is actually cosmic energy. Surfer should tank/absorb/reflect HV just fine.

So now all that's left is to figure out whether or not Superman can resist the PC? If not, well.....