Silver Surfer vs Superman w/stips

Originally posted by One-Punch

Epic Illustrated #1 is canon for Surfer:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/meltdown.htm

1. "[b]Epic Illustrated featured a SS story that is in-continuity, as it was cited in the FF Index#4 entry"

And if we check the Official Marvel Index of the Fantastic Four:

Excerpt ... under "Villains"

Credit to Mr. Master

Turns out Surfer's appearance in Epic Illustrated #1 is chronologically Surfer's 1st appearance in continuity.

You're full of crap trying to claim you actually know anything about continuity. So either provide proof for your "non-canon" claims, or stop crying wolf. [/B]

Interesting...

Now, because I want to know your opinion on it here to see if it's changed... is according to bios in comics, marvunapp, OHOTMU and other handbooks, marvel.com, etc, no character in Marvel can exceed lightspeed without jumping into the dimension of hyperspace.

Do you agree with this assessment?

Because in this thread,
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15076674&highlight=hyperspace+userid%3A90125#post15076674

You wanted to throw all that evidence aside just for the sake of your personal opinion on it.

But now that you think it helps your argument...Boom. There it is.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Yet you post a [b]cross-over...hypocrite much?

You're definitely no expert on continuity, you yell retcon and non-canon whenever it suits you argument without references. You were wrong about Epic Illustrated #1 being non-canon for Surfer (see below) so either prove they're non-canon or stop crying wolf.
[/B]

Another interesting thing on Marvunapp, beside my last post.

Is that the crossover Abhi posted is canon according to it.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/earthcrossoverall.htm

Originally posted by One-Punch

So?

In that issue Ego references how he was able to drive off a hungry Galactus--which happened in 616 continuity.

Later on in Marvel Adventures #13 Surfer references how Reed originally used the ultimate nullifier to drive Galactus away from Earth--this happened in 616 continuity

Surfer also references how Galactus eventually removed the barrier around Earth--this happened in 616 continuity

In the same issue Surfer is lured to counter-earth, and it's referenced how the High Evolutionary originally created counter-earth. This happened in 616 continuity and to my knowledge counter-earth has only been shown to exist in the 616 universe.

The Skrulls reference how they originally tried to invade Earth, but were driven away by the FF4--again this happened in 616 continuity.

That's 5 references to 616 continuity.

Just because some events happened the same doesn't mean anything.

Your own evidence is against you repeatedly.

http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appemarvadv.htm

Earth-20051 (Marvel Adventures)
Earth-20051 is the universe ID for the Marvel Adventures (short MA) comics line, which ran from 2005 to 2012. This line replaced the Marvel Age comics line, and "is/was the All Ages line of comics, so the history is fairly simple and there's no significant arcs to follow. This is the universe where everything is happy and nothing hurts. And also, Steve and Tony have basketball dates and go for burgers. The individual histories are essentially the same as in the main continuity, with less complexity and fewer dark themes."[2] Unlike many Marvel lines, every Marvel Adventures comic is designed to tell a stand-alone story.
The lines published under the Marvel Adventures imprint were Avengers, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Iron Man, and Spider-Man. The Avengers team in this line was comprised of Iron Man (Tony Stark), Captain America (Steve Rogers), Storm (Ororo Munroe), Giant Girl/The Wasp (Janet Van Dyne), Wolverine (Logan Howlett), Spider-Man (Peter Parker), the Hulk (Bruce Banner).
See Marvel Adventures: Avengers for fandom information.

Originally posted by Juntai
Interesting...

Now, because I want to know your opinion on it here to see if it's changed... is according to bios in comics, marvunapp, OHOTMU and other handbooks, marvel.com, etc, no character in Marvel can exceed lightspeed without jumping into the dimension of hyperspace.

Do you agree with this assessment?

Because in this thread,
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=15076674&highlight=hyperspace+userid%3A90125#post15076674

You wanted to throw all that evidence aside just for the sake of your personal opinion on it.

But now that you think it helps your argument...Boom. There it is.

Should be interesting because Surfer just recently outraced the destruction of the multiverse, literally.

Originally posted by Juntai
Another interesting thing on Marvunapp, beside my last post.

Is that the crossover Abhi posted is canon according to it.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/earthcrossoverall.htm

Cross-overs aren't allowed on this forum. In fact on the previous page Pr asked abhi to stop posting crossovers.

And TBF that crossover didn't make Surfer look bad either, since in a weakened state Surfer was able to contain the energies of Oa and Parallax combined when Kyle couldn't.

Originally posted by Juntai
Just because some events happened the same doesn't mean anything.

Your own evidence is against you repeatedly.

http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appemarvadv.htm

Earth-20051 (Marvel Adventures)
Earth-20051 is the universe ID for the Marvel Adventures (short MA) comics line, which ran from 2005 to 2012. This line replaced the Marvel Age comics line, and "is/was the All Ages line of comics, so the history is fairly simple and there's no significant arcs to follow. This is the universe where everything is happy and nothing hurts. And also, Steve and Tony have basketball dates and go for burgers. The individual histories are essentially the same as in the main continuity, with less complexity and fewer dark themes."[2] Unlike many Marvel lines, every Marvel Adventures comic is designed to tell a stand-alone story.
The lines published under the Marvel Adventures imprint were Avengers, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Iron Man, and Spider-Man. The Avengers team in this line was comprised of Iron Man (Tony Stark), Captain America (Steve Rogers), Storm (Ororo Munroe), Giant Girl/The Wasp (Janet Van Dyne), Wolverine (Logan Howlett), Spider-Man (Peter Parker), the Hulk (Bruce Banner).
See Marvel Adventures: Avengers for fandom information.

Marvenunapp specifically states the Marvel Adventures line that ran from 2005 to 2012 was non-canon.

The Marvel Adventures comic I posted was from 1997-1998. As far as I know they make no mention of the stories in this particular line being non-canon. And I do think references to past historical events that happened only in 616 continuity matter.

Originally posted by h1a8
He basically claiming that Surfer can absorb any amount of heat and energy. If that's not trolling then what is?

Accusing people of trolling because they disagree with you about Superman is one example. 😬

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Accusing people of trolling because they disagree with you about Superman is one example. 😬

It's trolling because they have lost the argument on the merits and are asserting wishful thinking with zero evidence.

Superman has proven to be above Surfer in raw power. Via his superior showings. No amount of lies will change that.

You don't even believe the stuff you type.

Originally posted by carver9
You don't even believe the stuff you type.

Originally posted by panthergod
Is that why you cannot even remotely refute those facts?

Refute what facts?

Originally posted by carver9
Refute what facts?

I accept your tacit concession.

Originally posted by panthergod
So running from proving your stance, then. Ok.

I accept your tacit concession.

So you didn't name the facts? Gotcha.

Accept your concession.

Originally posted by panthergod
It's trolling because they have lost the argument on the merits and are asserting wishful thinking with zero evidence.

Superman has proven to be above Surfer in raw power. Via his superior showings. No amount of lies will change that.

taz

Originally posted by burrrrrr
Accusing people of trolling because they disagree with you about Superman is one example. 😬

Originally posted by h1a8
You can only disagree if you have a basis to. Liking one character more is not a basis. Opinions only matter if it is based off feats and on panel evidence. This is a debating forum. The kiddy forum (where they express feelings without proof) is down the street.

Surfer wins handily..interesting match though

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Surfer wins handily..interesting match though

Originally posted by h1a8
How? I showed scans proving that the hv can be more than thousands of times hotter than a star. I showed the hv able to easily penetrate trans beings.
No one showed Surfer matching or exceeding that output. No one showed Surfer able to withstand that amount of heat and power.

because surfer is tailor made for such a fight...especially under these tips. had it been pure h2h then yea id pick clark but all norrin does is fly around blasting shit...i know its a hard pill to swallow but sm would lose this

Originally posted by Sin I AM
because surfer is tailor made for such a fight...especially under these tips. had it been pure h2h then yea id pick clark but all norrin does is fly around blasting shit...i know its a hard pill to swallow but sm would lose this

Did you see the feats I posted? They prove that Superman can kill Surfer with a single blast if he fully let loose. No showing by Surfer contradicts the scans. If you disagree then provide a scan that counters the ones I posted.

Surfer wins. Lol at supermans hv being thousands of times hotter than the Sun. 😅

Well, you guys ruined yet another thread. Thanks. No, really, good job.

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