Originally posted by Genii96
Surfer's immune to normal heat;can absorb hv and can effortlessly decimate a planet with an energy blast,he shits on superman in an energy contest
Planet busting is nothing compared to that.
But you think Surfer is above Superman in everything. So I will take your comments in about same regard as I do darthgoober or any other surfer fanboy.
Not to take seriously.
Originally posted by -Pr-
HV isn't solely heat, though, even if that were true.You'd lose.
Nope, you'd lose with your tiny hands.
uhuh
Originally posted by -Pr-why is this not a stomp? Surfer can destroy the entire solar system with his vastly superior energy blasts. Plenty characters have been hit with supermans heat vision at mild to full force and still fought on. Orion gets hit with it yet fires back but surfer was going to kill him with ease with nothing more than a simple blast. Superman has no chance here . This IS a stomp.
Surfer wins. Anyone saying it's a stomp is an idiot though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
HV isn't solely heat, though, even if that were true.You'd lose.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman can fire HV powerful enough to rival the birth of the sun with J'onn.Planet busting is nothing compared to that.
But you think Surfer is above Superman in everything. So I will take your comments in about same regard as I do darthgoober or any other surfer fanboy.
Not to take seriously.
Nope, you'd lose with your tiny hands.
uhuh
Originally posted by JBL
why is this not a stomp? Surfer can destroy the entire solar system with his vastly superior energy blasts. Plenty characters have been hit with supermans heat vision at mild to full force and still fought on. Orion gets hit with it yet fires back but surfer was going to kill him with ease with nothing more than a simple blast. Superman has no chance here . This IS a stomp.
Scans? And in that comic Darkseid oneshotted surfer with omega beams.
Superman matched and deflected the omega beams with HV.
Superman oneshots Surfer.
Obviously.
Originally posted by Genii96
heat vision isnt solely heat?i mean aside from the force it would have when hitting something what else is there? Not that it matters however, surfer still absorbs it with ease and has shugged off energy blasts that vaporize planets,surfer simply absorbs it:
Here he can't absorb the energy anyway. It's a simple energy blast fight.
Originally posted by Genii96
judging by your natural ability to overwank and overhype superman,yea, i am gonna need a scan for that,not that it would matter.....i mean what part of you dosent understand the meaning of surfer absorbing his hv?,is it so hard to get?surfer absorbs his hv and blast him to sleep.
Surfer being above superman is already a fact,ofcourse fanboys have their delusions,only thing superman has on him is strength feats,thats all, you actually believe i give a rats ass about how you take my comments? You must be in dreamland
And I've posted the scan already on last page.
You think Surfer can absorb solar energy better than Superman?
You claim "surfer is already above Superman" in every thread. Overcompensating much?
You can think whatever you want kid. Nobody cares.
I thought we debate by feats. When someone posts scans proving their case while the other just still claims Surfer wins is trolling. This is because they are ignoring on panel evidence.
I just proved that Superman's hv is hotter than thousands of times the sun.
It was shown that hv went through probes with ease.
What feats against heat and energy does Surfer have to say he can withstand it?
What energy blasts feats does he have to show it matching or exceeding the hv?
No one is posting feats for him. Just trolling, ignoring on panel evidence, and saying that he wins anyway.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Your point is?
That scan just informs that Surfer can resist heat but not from Firelord.He said the same about a random dragon five issues later and was still harmed by its fire.
When Firelord can blast right through Superman's body, call me about his attack having more power than Superman.
Superman actually absorbs solar energy far faster than surfer and is still harmed by HV.
😂Now somehow Surfer metabolizes solar energy better than Superman.
Oh surfer fanboys, never change.
Sigh. You don't get it. You can't count the Firelord ft as something that can be used against Surfer since Surfer outright tells us that Firelord power is more than just a heat based attack. Do you get it now? Unless you can prove Superman heat vision can shoot the same type of energy Firelord is dishing out then your argument with the usage of Firelord is irrelevant.
Originally posted by carver9
Sigh. You don't get it. You can't count the Firelord ft as something that can be used against Surfer since Surfer outright tells us that Firelord power is more than just a heat based attack. Do you get it now? Unless you can prove Superman heat vision can shoot the same type of energy Firelord is dishing out then your argument with the usage of Firelord is irrelevant.
He only said that Firelord's heat is due to Galactus's power. It's not "special heat" that allows him to harm surfer. It just means it's hotter than stars Surfer can endure.
Same as HV.
Firelord's attacks are heat based. Superman has heat+kinetic energy and the attacks are more powerful than Firelord's attacks.
You think Surfer is the only shiny character who is resistant to heat? Look up captain Atom or Major Force and see what Superman does to both of them.
Originally posted by JBL
why is this not a stomp? Surfer can destroy the entire solar system with his vastly superior energy blasts. Plenty characters have been hit with supermans heat vision at mild to full force and still fought on. Orion gets hit with it yet fires back but surfer was going to kill him with ease with nothing more than a simple blast. Superman has no chance here . This IS a stomp.
Did you just use a crossover to illustrate your point?
My earlier post seems even more relevant now...
Originally posted by Genii96
heat vision isnt solely heat?i mean aside from the force it would have when hitting something what else is there? Not that it matters however, surfer still absorbs it with ease and has shugged off energy blasts that vaporize planets,surfer simply absorbs it:
No he doesn't "simply" absorb it. Jesus.
Abhi's new game plan: don't like the showing? Yell non-canon without proof. 😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Mindcontrolled superman.
Are you serious here? That's not even canon IIRC.
Are you ****ing kidding me? Superman flat out said he is not at full power and Brute said that it was causing him unendurable agony.
WTF? That's a made up story by a character in that comic.
Diode actually came out of retirement to give himself recognition and show-off to his retired buddies who made fun of him. He ended up fighting (and then later helping) Superman.
The reporters caught it all on tape and it on the news channel where Diode showed off to his retired buddies:
http://s23.postimg.org/ka9kc306z/P00019.jpg
http://s23.postimg.org/3xzimclvf/P00020.jpg
He is just riding out the waves by supernovae. Nowhere did he actually tanked one. Rookie Green Lanterns on day one can do the same.
Surfer is smiling and riding supernovas for fun, while that GL is scared and clearly hurt by an exploding star. Good comparison. Also irrelevant to Superman.
Just like Superman.Just like Superman.
Superman and J'onn created a heat bolt powerful enough to rival the birth of the sun.http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/birthofsun1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/birthofsun2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/birthofsun3.jpg
Non canon again. This seems to be a pattern with you.
Yeah, and even then it can't Pierce the hides of a Herald like HV.
You and Juntai tried claiming Epic Illustrated #1 wasn't canon to 616 Surfer, and it turned out it was (referenced in Marvel's Official FF4 index as in continuity).
So either provide proof or stop crying wolf.
"Heat isn't regular heat".crylaugh
Have you finished your lowballing and citing non canon or imaginary stories yet?
Does Superman derive his power from the sun, or from Galactus' alien science? Does Superman have the power cosmic?
Simple questions.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And those who think HV is simple heat?http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/TelekineticAgitation.jpg
You realize the 'agitation of molecules' is the scientific definition for heat right?
😂
http://quatr.us/chemistry/atoms/heat.htm
You claim heat vision isn't just heat, then provide a scan that says it's heat LOL. In fact your scan shows Salaak dissing HV saying it's useless against large objects.
Surfer doesn't just absorb heat though. He can absorb concussive blasts and amp himself.
Like the time he absorbed an armada using all their power to blast him, then using that energy to stabilize a sun.
http://imgur.com/a/N5Vbq#3
http://imgur.com/a/N5Vbq#4
http://imgur.com/a/N5Vbq#5
His silvery skin can also reflect energy blasts too.
Like the time he used his silvery skin to reflect an energy beam created by the 6 Infinity Gems being used to depower Galactus:
http://i.imgur.com/XTUouTO.jpg
So Surfer's silvery skin not only has high durability, it's virtually immune to heat, can absorb concussive blasts, or reflect them away. Sounds like it'd be useful when facing HEAT vision.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He only said that Firelord's heat is due to Galactus's power. It's not "special heat" that allows him to harm surfer. It just means it's hotter than stars Surfer can endure.Same as HV.
Firelord's attacks are heat based. Superman has heat+kinetic energy and the attacks are more powerful than Firelord's attacks.
You think Surfer is the only shiny character who is resistant to heat? Look up captain Atom or Major Force and see what Superman does to both of them.
His heat isn't just a heat based attacks. It's more than that and have different properties. We can not ignore this.
Does Major Force and Captain Atom have fts similar to what Surfer has shown when it comes to heat based energy?
Originally posted by -Pr-It was a comparison of them fighting the same foe and using heat vision and energy blasts. Supermans heat attack compared to surfers energy blasts is not close at all. I know you like superman, but calling people idiots because they say its a stomp kind of let's the car out the bag. Debate me or others who make this claim instead of calling people idiots.
Did you just use a crossover to illustrate your point?My earlier post seems even more relevant now...
No he doesn't "simply" absorb it. Jesus.
Originally posted by JBL
It was a comparison of them fighting the same foe and using heat vision and energy blasts. Supermans heat attack compared to surfers energy blasts is not close at all. I know you like superman, but calling people idiots because they say its a stomp kind of let's the car out the bag. Debate me or others who make this claim instead of calling people idiots.
No, they aren't close. Even while holding back HV is competitive with energies far more powerful and potent than anything Surfer can muster.
