Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So the first video was released and she comes out an makes apologies. Why is she apologizing if the videos were fake?
The first videos were the ones about the storage and logistics cost of storing and shipping donated embryonic cells to research institutes, which the liars edited to make it appear that PP was selling baby parts.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So your comparing her average salary of non profit ceo's?Which one of those non profits lies about abortion profits, receives federal funding, which one of those profits off abortions, or uses tax payer money to throw themselves lavish parties and fly around on private jets?
That isn't a comparison at all.
Can you provide a source for your claim that they're lying about abortion profits?
How much should a CEO of a company who receives federal funding get? What do you think is a fair salary? Who should decide such a salary?
I think it's strange that you're complaining that PP is profiting off abortion. That means people are paying for their own abortions, which is how it's supposed to be. Would you rather them not make as much profit on abortion and have abortions funded by the government?
I imagine many CEOs fly around in private jets and have lavish parties. That doesn't bother me.
Originally posted by BackFire
Can you provide a source for your claim that they're lying about abortion profits?How much should a CEO of a company who receives federal funding get? What do you think is a fair salary? Who should decide such a salary?
I think it's strange that you're complaining that PP is profiting off abortion. That means people are paying for their own abortions, which is how it's supposed to be. Would you rather them not make as much profit on abortion and have abortions funded by the government?
I imagine many CEOs fly around in private jets and have lavish parties. That doesn't bother me.
Since they are tax payer funded, we should decide how much they make, yes?
Their abortions are funded by the government based on income of the woman or couple, iirc.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No one makes an apology for no wrong doing. She was dead wrong, the evidence outside the videos prove they are knee deep in filth.I can't believe you defend this organization Rob.
Based on what? Do you have some personal experience with them?
So once again when your points are proven false, you resort to personal attacks as a means to deflect, but I'll answer your nonsense anyways 👆
-No, I've never been in a PP or impregnated someone who's had an abortion.
-Why do I support PP? Because they provide needed services to women and actually lower the amount of abortions by educating and providing women with free birth-control.
Being against PP and wanting abortions made illegal is basically saying "I not only want more abortions, but I want them done in a back alley where the woman's life will be put at risk." God job.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Since they are tax payer funded, we should decide how much they make, yes?Their abortions are funded by the government based on income of the woman or couple, iirc.
How much do you think she should make? How would we go about deciding that? Should that be voted on?
Also only 17 states offer funding for abortion to low income citizens. That is not federal funding, that is state funding. There is an amendment that makes it impossible for any federal money to go into funding abortions.
I also looked up those 80% and 3% figures you mentioned. They make 86% of their non-government revenue from abortion, meaning money they make outside of what the government gives them. The reason this seems so high is because government funding accounts for most of procedures besides abortion that PP provides.
The 3% figure isn't about their profit. Abortions do make up for only 3% of their total procedures.
Originally posted by Robtard
So once again when your points are proven false, you resort to personal attacks as a means to deflect, but I'll answer your nonsense anyways 👆-No, I've never been in a PP or impregnated someone who's had an abortion.
-Why do I support PP? Because they provide needed services to women and actually lower the amount of abortions by educating and providing women with free birth-control.
Being against PP and wanting abortions made illegal is basically saying "I not only want more abortions, but I want them done in a back alley where the woman's life will be put at risk." God job.
This was actually a great post, and I appreciate the humor.
Do you have statistics or any sort of facts to back up "if PP wasn't around, women would do it anyways?"
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Actually it was proven they were not fraudulent, nice trolling. Your just embarrassed now this pit of vipers has been uncovered..
It was proven that the responses to questions were taken from entirely different parts of the questions where people were responding to multiple different things, and oh yes, multiple states have already investigated whether they get profit from fetal tissue sent to research labs- to, you know, fight actual serious diseases, this isn't done for kicks- and found them innocent.
Seriously, this planned parenthood hatchet job is a joke, and not a funny one- this is an organization that mostly provides health care to women.
These threads posting BS hit after BS hit are just being posted as a way to self-justify attacking something you ideologically don't like and are looking for excuses to go after.
No one makes an apology for no wrong doing. She was dead wrong, the evidence outside the videos prove they are knee deep in filth.
The video made out of chopping up a two hour conversation, and added subtitles that don't reflect what was being said.
“A thorough review of these videos in consultation with qualified experts found that they do not present a complete or accurate record of the events they purport to depict,” the analysis of a private research company said.
"The reviewers looked both at edited videos that are about eight minutes to 15 minutes long and at what Mr. Daleiden said were full-length recordings, some more than two hours long, that he released simultaneously."
And just for kicks, The Washington Examiner, a conservative newspaper, reports the same thing.
'The report argues that the five videos of Planned Parenthood representatives have "at least 42 splices where content is cut and edited together to create the appearance of seamless conversations."
For example, a Planned Parenthood staff member's remarks in one video about lab protocols were edited to make it sound like she was talking about changing abortion procedures, the organization said in a press release. '
Aaand this has all been posted to you before.
Boo, Time, you've been caught lying through your teeth 🙂
I don't know why you think posting blatant lies does anything but make you look untrustworthy.
Your acting so desperate because you know what they are doing is wrong.
I didn't make the video, so I didn't lie about anything.
Nice try at the whole "you lied on the internet" assault.
You do know I don't fall for your pathetic games though.
Did you mention anything at all about their lavish lifesetyles in your post, no you didn't. Your doing the same thing with PP that you did for Hilary.
Guess what it didn't work then and it isn't working now.
Caught ya👆
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
NPR as a source, the liberal funded new site😂
And the New York Times, and the Washington Examiner. Three sources for you ^^ NPR's got a rep for honesty for that matter, but I provided a good mix just-in-case.
It is amusing how you think that you saying you don't like one source disproves three.
By your leaving off the other two, and not confronting the evidence even in the one you don't like, I take it that you have precisely no actual counter-arguments to the evidence.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Your acting so desperate because you know what they are doing is wrong.
Do I hear deflection? Yes, yes I do.
You're so desperate because you know you're in the wrong and that lying is the only option you have, because the truth doesn't serve you one bit.
It's funny how you call 'posting evidence that proves you, Time, wrong,' desperation, while meanwhile, all you can do is stammer out deflections and excuses in a panic, without actually being able to back up your point.
I didn't make the video, so I didn't lie about anything.
You lied in that you said it wasn't faked, when you knew it was.
Passing on something you know to be a lie, is lying.
You're caught, it's blatant, and I have no idea why you think "Well, I didn't lie personally, I was just passing on something I know to be a lie..." is a defense.
Heck, the fact you use it as a defense rather says how guilty you are.
Face it Time, this is a pathetic attempt to blame a group for something they didn't do and you know they didn't do, purely because you don't like them.
Guess what it didn't work then and it isn't working now.Caught ya👆
I notice none of your deflection actually addresses the fact that you knew the video was a lie and said so anyway.
So yea, you've 'caught' me catching you lying, with evidence, with your excuse being 'I didn't lie, I just pass on lies'. Bad me 😉
Really, not much of an accusation compared to what you've been caught in red-handed.