Military punishes soldier for beating down a child rapist allied commander

Did I mention their names?

you used an all inclusive term which includes them, so yes.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you used an all inclusive term which includes them, so yes.

Generalizations from a liberal point of view are invalid, so my generalization of all liberals in this case fits your beliefs and doesn't include the minority. Meaning those 3..

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
You realize, the word lie here means nothing. You three don't count as a majority. Just like you say my vote for trump doesn't matter. Your three opinions don't matter.

Fail at "lie" tactics.

I see, so when you said "liberals", you didn't mean to include the people in here which you consider to be liberals. Weird.

Anyhow, where is your proof that 'liberals don't care cos Muslims' claim over this story?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Generalizations from a liberal point of view are invalid, so my generalization of all liberals in this case fits your beliefs and doesn't include the minority. Meaning those 3..

that's a "no true scottsman" fallacy, though.

They are given excuses, given tolerance, given media bias, major stories like this are not reported on. Obama refuses to talk about them as well as the liberals in the senate or the house.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
No ones cares, anything that makes a Muslim look bad, they ignore.

but thats just it. they have given no stance on the matter and you're kinda filling in the blanks with your own prejudices.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
that's a "no true scottsman" fallacy, though.

Don't rope me into your internet hughbox fallacy dictionary. Literally nothing said here affects international or national opinion, so while 3 of the liberals on this dead forum might have said "oh that's awful I'm so sad." No actual relevance makes it to the actual people in power or the media. No news outlet but fox covered this and Obama said nothing. But he did fire and punish his soldiers.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I've said it before, but I guess it needs to be said again: you have no sense for nuance when it comes to other peoples' political positions.

Care to post your opinion about the OP then?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Don't rope me into your internet hughbox fallacy dictionary. Literally nothing said here affects international or national opinion, so while 3 of the liberals on this dead forum might have said "oh that's awful I'm so sad." No actual relevance makes it to the actual people in power or the media. No news outlet but fox covered this and Obama said nothing. But he did fire and punish his soldiers.

Story on CNN (who you've accused of being a liberal biased site)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/green-beret-discharged-for-beating-alleged-child-rapist-speaks-out/

There goes that angle of yours.

edit: NY Times too

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=0

Originally posted by Newjak
I think you missed the point... the point being if the American Soldier was wrong then he just beat up an innocent man. Which is a problem. The context as presented in the article is that the Soldier confronted a man then attacked that man. We don't know based on that article if the soldier was correct or not.

We have had nobody come forth to say he was wrong or that the guy wasn't a rapist. Why has this not occurred then..if the guy was wrong? Story is over a month old.

Would you harm a person simply for having an accusation brought up against them?

If I saw a child chained up in their bedroom and then when I confronted the person they laughed in my face? Yes, yes I would.

I'm not saying ignore a potential problem but you just can't beat people up because you think they might be guilty. That kind of action is exactly what we are trying to change in the middle east. The article itself make no mention of whether or not it was proven the committed the action.

He had valid reason to think he was guilty. He didn't just pick out some random dude and say you are a rapist. He found the child chained to the bed in the guys room, the guy laughed when he brought it up, and this culture is apparently known for doing this shit.

So if the soldier was wrong why has nobody come forward? Since this makes the army look super bad. So..where is the coming forward?

And this is a major problem with the article. It condemns a man and raises another on a pedestal without this Afghan getting a trial or any other form or chance to defend. He was subject to one man's judgement before he got beat up/

You realize they put a dude in jail for one day for rape, and then forced the rape victim to marry the guy. What kind of judgement do you feel the Afghans would pass down on a commander doing what is apparently accepted in their culture?

EDIT: Sooo the links posted above tell how the guys made sure to verify they had the person responsible and then confronted him. So it's not like they saw a kid chained up and then ran and pounced on him. Oh and the rapist laughed and said it was "only a boy".

Kinda sounds like an admission of guilt.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Don't rope me into your internet hughbox fallacy dictionary. Literally nothing said here affects international or national opinion, so while 3 of the liberals on this dead forum might have said "oh that's awful I'm so sad." No actual relevance makes it to the actual people in power or the media. No news outlet but fix covered this.

ok, but you're not really making any valid point by suggesting that those 3 are not 'real' liberals. the same thing if you had a stance on an issue that didn't fall in line with your party's ideals, and your peers accused you of not being a true *insert party name*. its a non-point and serves nothing, least of all your own position.

Originally posted by Robtard
Story on CNN (who you've accused on being a liberal biased site)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/28/politics/green-beret-discharged-for-beating-alleged-child-rapist-speaks-out/

There goes that angle of yours.

edit: NY Times too

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=0

Well thanks for the article, I had not seen it. So your point? Cause newjaks went out the window. Appears everything surtur posted was legit.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Well thanks for the article, I had not seen it. So your point?c

Originally posted by Surtur
We have had nobody come forth to say he was wrong or that the guy wasn't a rapist. Why has this not occurred then..if the guy was wrong? Story is over a month old.

If I saw a child chained up in their bedroom and then when I confronted the person they laughed in my face? Yes, yes I would.

He had valid reason to think he was guilty. He didn't just pick out some random dude and say you are a rapist. He found the child chained to the bed in the guys room, the guy laughed when he brought it up, and this culture is apparently known for doing this shit.

So if the soldier was wrong why has nobody come forward? Since this makes the army look super bad. So..where is the coming forward?

You realize they put a dude in jail for one day for rape, and then forced the rape victim to marry the guy. What kind of judgement do you feel the Afghans would pass down on a commander doing what is apparently accepted in their culture?

EDIT: Sooo the links posted above tell how the guys made sure to verify they had the person responsible and then confronted him. So it's not like they saw a kid chained up and then ran and pounced on him.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're welcome. My point is that you were incorrect in your claim.

I was incorrect, I made that claim before I scoured the web looking for them., even though I didn't make op.

I apologize.

I guess he did not see him chained up, my mistake, but from the article:

"Quinn and Martland were told by a young Afghan boy and his mother, through an Afghan interpreter, that the boy had been tied to a post at the home of Afghan Local Police commander Abdul Rahman and raped repeatedly for up to two weeks. When his mother tried to stop the attacks, they told the soldiers, Rahman's brother beat her. Quinn says he verified the story with other ALP commanders from neighboring villages. Then they invited Rahman to the camp.

"After the child rapist laughed it off and referenced that it was only a boy, Captain Quinn picked him up and threw him," Martland writes. Martland then proceeded to "body slam him multiple times," kick him in the rib cage, and put his foot on his neck. "I continued to body slam him and throw him for fifty meters until he was outside the camp," Martland writes. "He was never knocked out, and he ran away from our camp." The incident lasted no more than five minutes, he says."

Laughing and saying it is only a boy sounds like an admission of guilt.

Originally posted by Newjak
First off I did not see in the article where it mentioned the American Soldier actually found the child chained up. In fact I'm pretty sure it only says he was told it was. In fact that was my first question in this thread. Did the American Soldier have actual evidence to support his claim.

So in light of new sources, you are focusing on disproving the soldier for freeing a sex slaved victim.

perhaps the soldier was mistaken. last i heard they're human. thats probably part why this is being investigated and no conclusions are being immediately jumped to.