Durron, Kun and TFU II Starkiller vs. Novel!Vitiate, SoR Revan and HoT (Force only)

Durron has already had experience being possessed/controlled by Kun and becomes quite the TP powerhouse. Kun himself has willpower to the extreme in this contest. Starkiller is a good target here for Vitiate though.

Telepathy is highly unlikely to win this match, Vitiate also isn't going to underestimate guys like Kun so I doubt he'd even attempt it here.

Kun could dispose the Hero with his techniques but to do that he needs Starkiller to hold off Vitiate and hope Durron can hold against Revan. If Kun can kill the HoT fast enough then team 1 can win, otherwise we are looking at one major powerhouse and two minor powerhouses vs two majors and one minor.

Vitiate TP's while Revan and HoT destroy Kun. Not even a good fight.

Vitiate is not TPing Durron, Starkiller is however much more likely. But this all assumes Vitiate has the chance to try and would do so given one.

How does being possessed by Kun support the "Vitiate can't TP him" claim again?

Team 2 solidly.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Durron has already had experience being possessed/controlled by Kun and becomes quite the TP powerhouse.

Durron was not exactly posessed by Kun, but just influenced. That is an entirely different matter compared to Vitiate's usual mind-domination. And being good at TP also won't save him, if even the Dread Masters bow before Vitiate.

Kun himself has willpower to the extreme in this contest.

More than Revan, Malak or both of them combined? I don't think so.

Starkiller is a good target here for Vitiate though.

Which would turn this into a 4 on 2, where I don't even think Team 1 can take it in a fair fight, totally ignoring Vitiate's TP.

Telepathy is highly unlikely to win this match, Vitiate also isn't going to underestimate guys like Kun so I doubt he'd even attempt it here.

He attempted it against Revan and Malak, and while the its only mentioned from Revan's POV in the Revan-Novel, it stands to reason, that he tried it on Meetra too - perhabs even Scourge, when they challenged him. There was a reason why Revan taught them how to put up some defense against Vitiate's TP.
And once again, I can just point to the strike team confronting Vitiate, that was instantly downed and mind-controlled by him with apparent ease.

Kun could dispose the Hero with his techniques but to do that he needs Starkiller to hold off Vitiate and hope Durron can hold against Revan. If Kun can kill the HoT fast enough then team 1 can win, otherwise we are looking at one major powerhouse and two minor powerhouses vs two majors and one minor.

Starkiller is - at best - slightly above (Legends) Vader level. How do you think he's going to "hold off Vitiate" exactly? And, yes, it is possible that Kun can take out the HoT, but I doubt it would be going fast. And it is also rather questionable, if Durron can last long against Revan in both Force and Sabers. To me, Vitiate's team still holds the advantage in terms of Force abilities and lightsaber combat. With the possibility, that Vitiate could win this on his own via TP.

Well Kun has dominated the minds of armies, has an amulet designed to enforce his will(among other things), survived four millennia off of willpower and was influencing the minds of a number of powerful individuals throughout his existence. Vitiate is not dominating someone as powerful as Exar Kun.

Vitiate most certainly did not attempt to telepathically attack Meetra as he wasn't even aware of his impending death at the hands of her lightsaber throw, he then sized her up before Revan healed himself.

Kyp Durron had been influenced massively by Kun, when Kun was banished Kyp went from Dark Side enraged lunatic to absolutely no corruption at all. This experience was said by Luke to make him very wise on matters such as those and his will grew far more powerful over the decades he improved.

Telepathy won't win the match, it'll take sheer power to do that, which is all dependant on match ups. Remember that as soon as Vitiate realised how powerful his enemy was he went all-out on Revan.

The one way I see team 1 winning is Exar Kun using his viper technique to completely incapacitate the HoT. Then moving on to Vitiate himself and helping out Starkiller. Kyp Durron should certainly hold out long enough against Revan.

On the point of Starkiller, he can hold his own here if he calls upon his outlier feats. Otherwise he's little more than a very annoying distraction.

Originally posted by Nai
it stands to reason, that he tried it on Meetra too - perhabs even Scourge, when they challenged him. There was a reason why Revan taught them how to put up some defense against Vitiate's TP.

Ehh, not necessarily. A much more powerful incarnation of Scourge makes it clear that he can't resist the Emperor's influence.

Kun has dominated the minds of armies?

Nah.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Kun has dominated the minds of armies?

Probably referencing the enslavement of the Massassi.

Guess Revan dominated the minds of Maasassi too then, kek.

And Malaphar? Alchemical abomination made by Revan. 😉

Worldbreaker Monolith >>

TBF, Theron says Malaphar is probably an alchemical creation made by the Revanites, so it being a product of Revan is rather likely following his logic.

Maybe I should add that to my thread? mmm

Originally posted by SunRazer
Probably referencing the enslavement of the Massassi.

Not to mention about 10,000 senators. Oh and he pulled a Vitiate on the Massassi during the ritual so yeah.

That's not really an army. 😬

And I doubt it.
That's like saying Revan dominated the minds of all the Revanites since they were ultra-loyal to him and ready to be mutated / die for his cause of mass genocide.

Malaphar? Kun created the Massassi Abominations in the first place. He also changed Battle Hydras, made Terentateks and all sorts of other shit.

But yeh Monoliths take the cake.

Nah.

“Sadow was a gifted alchemist who turned his Massassi followers into powerful, violent animals who worshipped and served Sadow. The Massassi built massive temples for Sadow where they sacrificed their own in his honor. Sadow was even powerful enough to stave off the inevitable. He placed himself in a near-death slumber, which he remained in for hundreds of years, waiting until someone would come to take his place….”

Nadd killing physical! Sadow is 🙂🙂🙂

Kun's other alchemical monsters were pretty cool. Revan's Malaphar was probably better than them all though, LMFAO. Pretty embarrassing if Revan, who isn't an alchemist, is outclassing Kun in even that front.

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