Oregon Campus Shooting

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Chicago is a One Party City (aka Democrat/Liberal controlled) That city and state have some of the MOST if not HARSEST Gun Control Laws in the entire country.

Look how well its is working when compared to its neighboring states.

I said it before. Will say it again.

LAWS do NOT STOP CRIME!

But hey. If Ush or 99 want to walk into some of those Gang Controlled part of the city and tell them they need to hand in their ILLEGALLY obtained weapons.

Feel free.

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and 😆 😆

https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-comparing-us-murder-rates-developed-countries

So we should be comparing US murder rates with war torn and nigh lawless countries where it's not uncommon for some group to get pissed off at another group for whatever shit reason and there's a ethnic cleansing or some sort?

In that case, the US is doing great 👆

Originally posted by psmith81992
https://mises.org/blog/mistake-only-comparing-us-murder-rates-developed-countries

Sure, we're not as bad as say, Yemen, Honduras, or Guatemala. But why would we want to use those countries as benchmarks?

I like how everyone discredits the article automatically.

Not automatically. We read it, saw the lolworthy hole in its logic, and then reported it as such. If anyone's doing anything automatically, it's you, trying to dismiss our criticisms of a stupid opinion piece without taking the time to consider just how silly its argument is.

You surely aren't in favor of giving America a pass simply for being better than third world nations, are you?

You're right TI, the murder rates in the US are not bad at all, look at Uganda as a comparison 👆

That wasn't the point of the article.

Articles get discredited, if it comes from CNN and they don't like it like the missiles, its then downplaying to no end.

Discrediting a source and disagreeing with its logic (or with your interpretation of the source's implications) are different.

To discredit a source is to dismiss it simply by virtue of what it is, not what it says. I didn't say anything about the link's source, just its argument.

Yes but this happens over and over here.

If its from a source they can't discredit, they downplay it and flip it on the person who posted it.

It smart but its not fooling anyone.

Then what was the real point of it.

Yes, what's the point we're missing?

So in part apparently as a response to this shooting on Saturday they signed a bill in California that banned all conceal and carry permits on college campuses. At least that is what I heard the guy on the radio complaining about. He was saying how this law makes it easier to "murder college students".

I can see how it doesn't make people safer, but I don't think most college kids carry guns anyways.

Originally posted by Surtur
I can see how it doesn't make people safer, but I don't think most college kids carry guns anyways.

They will next year at the University of Texas.

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/10/12/cocksnotglocks-protest-planned-by-university-of-texas-students/

Too bad it's being fought back by morons.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
They will next year at the University of Texas.

http://college.usatoday.com/2015/10/12/cocksnotglocks-protest-planned-by-university-of-texas-students/

Too bad it's being fought back by morons.

I'm at a loss for words here. That sounds like an idea that a 12 yr. old would have after snorting too many pixie sticks.

Originally posted by Surtur
So in part apparently as a response to this shooting on Saturday they signed a bill in California that banned all conceal and carry permits on college campuses. At least that is what I heard the guy on the radio complaining about. He was saying how this law makes it easier to "murder college students".

I can see how it doesn't make people safer, but I don't think most college kids carry guns anyways.

Not like these anti-gun areas have force fields that disintegrate each gun that passes through so what exactly are people thinking that makes them work?

We have security and cops for a reason, we don't need armed students. Please don't try to lecture me on how a university should function.

Wasn't trying to but from how it sounded, that university in Oregon didn't have as much security as one would've thought. Teachers at least should be allowed to carry a firearm for they would be more trusting with one than a student.