Originally posted by psmith81992
The difference is an active or dormant watch list. Nobody cares about licenses. Everyone on a gun registry is going to be watched one way or another.
While I understand your point, it does sound very "big brother is watching" paranoia. I can see people with a criminal past being watched, but your average gun owner, doubt it.
Originally posted by Robtard
We have real-world examples of more stricter gun laws lowering gun related crimes. So unless you believe "nope, just won't work in the US cos nope", there is precedence.
True, but we also have real-world examples where mass ownership of guns doesn't really produce mass shootings or even increased crime. Either way, stricter gun control laws are unlikely to deter a spree killing lunatic.
Big surprise. 🙄 The place where this happened was a "gun-free" zone:
If victims had been armed they could've at least defended themselves.
Originally posted by Star428
Big surprise. 🙄 The place where this happened was a "gun-free" zone:If victims had been armed they could've at least defended themselves.
Dude, of course schools are gun-free zones. The idea of killers killing people in gun-free zones stems from the fact that they bring the guns FROM non gun-free zones INTO gun free zones to kill ppl...
I mean, come on!
Originally posted by Star428
Big surprise. 🙄 The place where this happened was a "gun-free" zone:If victims had been armed they could've at least defended themselves.
solution: more guns. 👆
who needs links the onion when we have so many creative satirists right here.
Originally posted by ArtificialGloryLoL, "more stricter", I sound like one of the Caucasian Southern muckfolk in here. Sorry.
True, but we also have real-world examples where mass ownership of guns doesn't really produce mass shootings or even increased crime. Either way, stricter gun control laws are unlikely to deter a spree killing lunatic.
Anyhow. No, they're still going to be gun related murders, no one who argues for stricter guns laws uses "end of all gun crime" as a reason, just a reduction and possibly even less deaths (like the 15-20 here) per incident.
Originally posted by psmith81992
It's not though it's a valid point. I was also born in communist russia so its well founded.
I resisted making a Yakov joke 👆
But personal fears (even founded from Soviet past experiences) aside, every random gun owner being watched by the government is a silly notion.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Dude, of course schools are gun-free zones. The idea of killers killing people in gun-free zones stems from the fact that they bring the guns FROM non gun-free zones INTO gun free zones to kill ppl...I mean, come on!
My point, "dude", is that if they at least allowed some kind of security at the school like armed guards then it could've been prevented.
"I mean, come on!" 🙄
Originally posted by Robtard
I resisted making a Yakov joke 👆But personal fears (even founded from Soviet past experiences) aside, every random gun owner being watched by the government is a silly notion.
It's not being watched it's the idea and potential of it. Sure you'll throw it out because you don't own a gun and aren't going to be part of this but I understand the concern.
Originally posted by psmith81992
It's not being watched it's the idea and potential of it. Sure you'll throw it out because you don't own a gun and aren't going to be part of this but I understand the concern.
I don't own a gun, I've considered owning one (target shooting is fun) and if I did, I assure you that if there was a registry, the idea of "the government is watching me now" would never cross my mind.
I, too, was born in the Eastern Bloc, but I find your fears unfounded.
Being on anyone's active watch list is a serious matter. If the registry happens, those with automatic weapons will most definitely be watched. Those who own 5-10 guns will be watched. It's a silly notion until it isn't.
Originally posted by psmith81992
During the apex of communism?Being on anyone's active watch list is a serious matter. If the registry happens, those with automatic weapons will most definitely be watched. Those who own 5-10 guns will be watched. It's a silly notion until it isn't.
No, but I know quite well where you're coming from. The US is nothing like the Soviet Union and if it did become like it(it won't), being on some gun registry would be the least of your worries.
Besides, isn't the NSA already watching everyone?
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
No, but I know quite well where you're coming from. The US is nothing like the Soviet Union and if it did become like it(it won't), being on some gun registry would be the least of your worries.Besides, isn't the NSA already watching everyone?
Actively? I Doubt it. Although I need to clear my browser history just to make sure.
Originally posted by psmith81992
During the apex of communism?Being on anyone's active watch list is a serious matter. If the registry happens, those with automatic weapons will most definitely be watched. Those who own 5-10 guns will be watched. It's a silly notion until it isn't.
Well, if things get TOO bad and communist-y, wouldn't acquiring guns off the grid make more sense THEN? I know it would be harder but isn't one argument that "anyone who is determined would be able to get a gun?"
But atm, wouldn't it make MORE sense to have guns tracked so as to lower risks of them falling into the wrong hands?