Dooku, Maul, Talzin vs Sidious and Grievous

Started by FreshestSlice15 pages

You mean right after Maul starts aiding her. 😬

Originally posted by ares834
No, it’s not perspective. Look at the top panel. It’s from virtually the same perspective as the fourth. Talzin is forced back and Sidious appears to be almost lunging forward.

It is perspective. Your interpretation of their poses proves nothing on how the fight was going. The only difference in the first and fourth panel is how her robes are billowing. Great evidence in a fight I'm sure. And on the next page Talzin is lunging forward despite losing.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
You mean right after Maul starts aiding her. 😬

No, actually:

I mean right after Dooku starts aiding Sidious. Leaning forward means nothing.

Which is still right after Maul started aiding her, Neph. And while Dooku is aiding Sidious, Maul wasn't just tortured, possessed, and then slapped around minutes before. Or you know, clutching his wounded side.

No, it's after Dooku and Sidious have forced her lightning back completely and she's hiding behind a bubble.

Dooku being better than Maul doesn't mean anything, yo.

Originally posted by ares834
Nope.

And nope.

If you actually read the comic you would have seen Talzin getting pushed back and Sidious moving forward.

You are dead wrong and a two on one advantage leads me to believe Sidious can't take her on by himself since he didn't.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, it's after Dooku and Sidious have forced her lightning back completely and she's hiding behind a bubble.

Dooku being better than Maul doesn't mean anything, yo.


Can you not read the part where Maul says, "Mother! Take my strength!" and then begins giving her Force energy? And Dooku definitely isn't better than Maul in this situation. One of them isn't wounded. Hint: it's Maul,

Originally posted by McP
It was on Dathomir, the place that is called "the hearth of Mother Talzin's powers" or smth like that. She was amped, which enabled hed to fight Sidious equally. On neutral ground she's inferior to him.

Anyway, Grievous is inferior to any combatant on the battlefield, and I doubt that Sidious will be able to protect him all the time. The only one here that wont stomp Grievous here is Maul (still, Maul will comfortable beat him).
If Grievous fall, before Sidious will eliminate anyone from team 1, Sidious will be stomped.

The scan indicates she will he weaker after she retains a physical body. That's under her normal power anyways and the fact remains Palpatine needed a three on one advantage to kill her. Weak. This team Mauls Sheev. Get it. 💃

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Can you not read the part where Maul says, "Mother! Take my strength!" and then begins giving her Force energy? And Dooku definitely isn't better than Maul in this situation. One of them isn't wounded. Hint: it's Maul,

None of that matters because Talzin is clearly losing at that point yet is still leaning forward. Hence proving my point.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It is perspective. Your interpretation of their poses proves nothing on how the fight was going. The only difference in the first and fourth panel is how her robes are billowing. Great evidence in a fight I'm sure. And on the next page Talzin is lunging forward despite losing.

It’s not an “interpretation” it’s what is shown. And no, the only difference isn’t that her robes are billowing. In the first she is standing straight and in the later her back is bent back and her head is bowed.

Which could indicate concentration, not failure.

We have Sidious lean forward, followed immediately by her bending back, and then Maul shouts "Mother!" and begins to help her....

Plus we see a bolt of lightning blast past her.

The conclusion here is obvious.

Originally posted by Nephthys
None of that matters because Talzin is clearly losing at that point yet is still leaning forward. Hence proving my point.
Peoole like ares only see what they want to see and act like their interpretation is a fact.

Originally posted by ares834
We have Sidious lean forward, followed immediately by her bending back, and then Maul shouts "Mother!" and begins to help her....

Plus we see a bolt of lightning blast past her.

The conclusion here is obvious.

That you're jumping to them? Yeah.

There's bolts flying all over the place. And you can't prove that they're leaning forward or backwards.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Peoole like ares only see what they want to see and act like their interpretation is a fact.

Your approval fills me with shame.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That you're jumping to them? Yeah.

Originally posted by Nephthys
There's bolts flying all over the place. And you can't prove that they're leaning forward or backwards.

Sure I can. We merely have to look at the pretty pictures. Sidious is obviously leaning forward, unless Sidious is shooting lightning straight up into the air. Talzin, meanwhile, can be seen bending back especially when compared to the first panel and the changes in her pose.

Originally posted by Nephthys
That you're jumping to them? Yeah.

There's bolts flying all over the place. And you can't prove that they're leaning forward or backwards.

Your approval fills me with shame.

I bet you say that to all the boys.

We must remember that they aren't on Dathomir, so Talzin can't hold off Sidious like she did in the comic.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
We must remember that they aren't on Dathomir, so Talzin can't hold off Sidious like she did in the comic.
Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ?

Dathomir tends to amp Talzin up. Also you'll see in the threads here including her, and another character named Getherizon that their Dathomir feats are included. They tend to be more amped when on Dathomir.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Dathomir tends to amp Talzin up. Also you'll see in the threads here including her, and another character named Getherizon that their Dathomir feats are included. They tend to be more amped when on Dathomir.
Prove the difference outside of dathomir.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove the difference outside of dathomir.

You would have to look at their Dathomir feats, also the comic says in the heart of her power.