Navy SEAL threatened by ISIS

The retired Navy SEAL who killed Osama Bin Laden has been targeted by ISIS after a British ISIS supporter released the name and address of the SEAL:

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2015/navy-seal-threatened-by-isis-responds-as-any-patriot-would-video

The hero doesn't seem too worried in the short video. Course he is a former SEAL, afterall, and we all know how badass they are. 👆

No one ****s with U.S. Navy SEALs. NO ONE. They're the baddest badasses on the planet. I can't wait to read about some ISIS coward being gutted or something worse because he stupidly thought he could kill a SEAL.

He's obviously an exceptional combatant, but I doubt any ISIS follower is going to challenge him to an honorable duel.

I think he's using the right strategy though. He's got FBI agents and local law enforcement collaborating with him, so there is an added layer of security. Must suck having that thought in the back of your head though.

Yeah you hit the nail on the head when you said "coward". Cowards tend not to fight fairly, and terrorists are some of the biggest cowards in existence. They have no problem recruiting kids to do their dirty work or blowing themselves up for their "cause".

I'd be curious about how this British ISIS supporter got ahold of this information in the first place.

Who said anything about it being an "honorable duel"? Navy SEALs are trained to have heigthened senses. I'd like to see an ISIS coward try to sneak up on him. Probably the only way they would be able to kill him is to sacrifice themselves in some sort of suicide bombing or perhaps snipe him from far away but now that he's aware of the threat I don't see that happening.

The honorable duel part was a joke, but I believe those scenarios you presented are more likely. ISIS and their supporters wouldn't want to give an elite operative, from any organization, a chance to retaliate.

Honestly, I'm hoping to hear about him or the FBI wrecking someone just like you are. I'm just also keeping a realistic amount of concern for him too.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
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Super Edit.

I decided not to troll Star and you jerks don't let me.

Ushgarak, ban these people.

To answer your question though, no, the average SEAL is more likely to lose his own jugular to a professional MMA fighter.

Someone who part-times in fighting hand to hand isn't going to beat someone 100% dedicated to it. They've forgotten more about fighting than a SEAL has learned.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I decided not to troll Star and you jerks don't let me.

Ushgarak, ban these people.

To answer your question though, no, the average SEAL is more likely to lose his own jugular to a professional MMA fighter.

Someone who part-times in fighting hand to hand isn't going to beat someone 100% dedicated to it. They've forgotten more about fighting than a SEAL has learned.

Don't you think that fighting for sports teaches a style of fighting that's optimized for the rules?

I think there could be an argument made that a fighter trained to only hit someone a lot with their fists, or a fighter taught to get their opponent to "give up", would lose to a fighter trained to kill swiftly, if it was a fight to the death.

LOL. I can't believe people are actually debating who'd win between an MMA sports fighter and a highly trained Navy SEAL. SEALs are trained killers. They're the best of the best. MMA fighters fight for sport. Honestly, in a real fight to the death without rules the MMA fighter wouldn't last long against a seasoned SEAL. Even if MMA fighting is actually real (I'm suspicious) and not fake like wrestling is they still don't have to go thru nearly as intensive training as SEALs do.

Besides, this is going off topic, anyway.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't you think that fighting for sports teaches a style of fighting that's optimized for the rules?

I think there could be an argument made that a fighter trained to only hit someone a lot with their fists, or a fighter taught to get their opponent to "give up", would lose to a fighter trained to kill swiftly, if it was a fight to the death.

Also, lol at "trained to only hit someone a lot with their fists", lol. What do you think soldiers learn in their hand to hand combat classes? It's mixed martial arts.

In a real fight, the SEAL just has to hope that the MMA fighter lets him pass out or that it's not to the death. Because all they'd have to do is not let go once he passes out and strangle him to death. 👆

Surprisingly, fighters who are trained solely to fight are better fighters than people who aren't.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I think that most of the fighters in MMA are trained in real styles with real practical applications, and that most of the "kill swiftly" techniques taught to SEALS know the same kill moves, but don't use them in competition.

Also, lol at "trained to only hit someone a lot with their fists", lol. What do you think soldiers learn in their hand to hand combat classes? It's mixed martial arts.

Well in the sense that it's martial arts...and a mix of those. It's not the same training as MMA fighters though....

Someone please post the navy seal meme.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well in the sense that it's martial arts...and a mix of those. It's not the same training as MMA fighters though....

Also, I really wish this hadn't got derailed. The point was that this SEAL is a human.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combatives

"One of the fundamental aspects of Modern Army Combatives training is the use of competitions as a tool to motivate Soldiers to train. Realizing the inherent problem with competitive systems, that competitors will focus their training on winning and therefore only train the techniques that are allowed in competition, Larsen designed a system of graduated rules that, combined with scenario based training, demand that Soldiers train on all aspects of fighting."

It seems like this is talking about exactly the issue, that a rule based system gets hacked, and the fighters are optimised for the rules not reality.

And of course SEALs are human, like every other human. It's awful that ISIS is targeting him, but there's not much to discuss, is there?

Originally posted by Bardock42
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combatives

"One of the fundamental aspects of Modern Army Combatives training is the use of competitions as a tool to motivate Soldiers to train. Realizing the inherent problem with competitive systems, that competitors will focus their training on winning and therefore only train the techniques that are allowed in competition, Larsen designed a system of graduated rules that, combined with scenario based training, demand that Soldiers train on all aspects of fighting."

It seems like this is talking about exactly the issue, that a rule based system gets hacked, and the fighters are optimised for the rules not reality.

And of course SEALs are human, like every other human. It's awful that ISIS is targeting him, but there's not much to discuss, is there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6yJ_-urZxY

There's plenty of videos and documents detailing military martial arts programs, like the one above. Aside from weapons training, it's all stuff you'd find at an MMA/combat oriented gym.

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. I can't believe people are actually debating who'd win between an MMA sports fighter and a highly trained Navy SEAL. SEALs are trained killers. They're the best of the best. MMA fighters fight for sport. Honestly, in a real fight to the death without rules the MMA fighter wouldn't last long against a seasoned SEAL. Even if MMA fighting is actually real (I'm suspicious) and not fake like wrestling is they still don't have to go thru nearly as intensive training as SEALs do.

Besides, this is going off topic, anyway.

Of course they don't go through as intensive of training..the SEALS are trained to do more then just fight hand to hand.

As for MMA you realize it is real right? They certainly borrowed some tricks from wrestling when it comes to promotion, but it's real. Also for me wrestling isn't fake..rather the outcomes are just predetermined.

Originally posted by Surtur
Of course they don't go through as intensive of training..the SEALS are trained to do more then just fight hand to hand.

As for MMA you realize it is real right? They certainly borrowed some tricks from wrestling when it comes to promotion, but it's real. Also for me wrestling isn't fake..rather the outcomes are just predetermined.

Well, it is "real", but it is also a competitive sport that needs to be relatively safe and doesn't allow a lot of very effective techniques you would apply in real life because of that.

Well yeah I wasn't saying it would help them in street fight, just that it is not like wrestling. Wrestling is sports entertainment whereas the MMA fights are just a sport that happens to be entertaining.