People realize there's Navy Seals in MMA right? Not one considered the best of their weightclass or even close. In fact...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Wolff
That being said of course if you allow throat grabbing and nut punches that opens up ways to win but it also allows the fighter to do it too. And I have my doubts any SEAL would beat even current Wandy in a no rules match.
Originally posted by Star428
Whatever. No one is making you read it or reply are they? So what's your problem with it? You don't like it then report it. IF Ush feels same way u do then I"m sure he'll close it.
My hat is off to you Whirly, this Star428 character you have created is the funniest troll ever.
-AJ
Originally posted by Star428
Whatever. No one is making you read it or reply are they? So what's your problem with it? You don't like it then report it. IF Ush feels same way u do then I"m sure he'll close it.
The fact that you morons have turned a serious issue into 12 year old's argument of "who'd win in a fight...a navy seal or a MMA fighter"
Hilarious stuff. Embarrassing.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Embarrassing....or AWESOME????
Awesome if you made the fight in a ring filled with jello and sporks to the death!
Seals train to kill not "fight" per say like an mma guy, there have been guys that left special ops (not just seals) to do mma and have done well but I've never seen one get to the top of the mma food chain.
This is a crazy thread. I think the big thing we need to talk about is that someone is being threatened. A human very killable person. I mean the Navy Seal is trained for this so they have a statistically better chance of being prepared to handle an encounter than the average joe but that doesn't make him immortal. Hopefully this is just grandstanding because if an organization with enough resources and connections want you dead it is hard to counter that unless you have the same type of resources and connections backing you.
For the rest of discussion it's silly. You have to look at the individual context of the situation. For one thing there are a huge range of different mma fighters falling under different skill levels while Seals are elite forces in the military. There are also black belts that have never sparred a person in there life in true full speed contact. The same token there are some crazy mma fighters out there that put themselves through the grind day in and day out perfecting their combat skills.
I would say we took comparable people from the military and mma with similar experiences and years of training I would most likely pick the mma fighter simply because they are going to focus and practice more on H2H over that time frame than the military person would.
This notion of killing moves making a difference is silly. It's like saying people from the street have the advantage because they do no holds barred fighting. It doesn't matter how rough your experience is if you are up against someone that has trained to effectively break your body in the most quick manner available to them.
Originally posted by Star428It is a crazy thread. It's crazy because this guy is being threatened and you are turning this into him being an action movie hero and turning the seals into unbeatable forces of destruction. Which is not true.
It's "crazy". Sure thing, lib. Whatever u say, dude.
They are well trained human beings that can be killed just like the rest of us especially if they are taken off guard or are not equipped for the situation they find themselves in.
Originally posted by Newjak
It is a crazy thread. It's crazy because this guy is being threatened and you are turning this into him being an action movie hero and turning the seals into unbeatable forces of destruction. Which is not true.They are well trained human beings that can be killed just like the rest of us especially if they are taken off guard or are not equipped for the situation they find themselves in.
'There is no greater level of American than a Navy SEAL and they're unbeatable!!!!1!'
This is the level of intelligence you're dealing with here, just an FYI in case you didn't know.
Originally posted by Star428
LOL. Yes, really.
Like Star428 or Whirly as he prefers to be called on other sites said Navy Seals are tough. They are like T1000's who cares if this guy has been threatened they all have righteous precog and will anticipate being attacked. You've seen Rambo? Well Navy Seals are tougher. 5 Navy seals could have won in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
Originally posted by Star428
Bottom line is MMA fighters, just like wrestlers you see in WWF or some other wrestling organization on tv, are [b]entertainers. SEALs are highly trained efficient killers. Even just using their hands and feet this isn't close. They don't need guns or knives to beat people who fight for purely entertainment value. While an MMA fighter is using fancy looking moves that "look cool" on tv the SEAL won't **** around and will go straight for the kill. [/B]
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Lol Mayhem Miller. What a clown.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I'm sure being much stronger, tougher, and faster while having far better technical skill doesn't help in a street fight at all.Frankly, professional wrestlers could probably also beat the average SEAL in a fist fight, due largely to their much greater average size, strength, and athleticism.
MMA fighters are overkill. They have much of that while also being considerably more technically skilled.
Ken Shamrock actually has trained soldiers in hand to hand, for example.
I still remember having to convince some people here that the military trained grappling techniques at all, and now that that is established they're throwing this "but the ruleset!" nonesense around. It's the same bs logic that led to people believing the in the "mystical far east" styles of the past. It's essentially screaming "but Jason Bourne is real! I know he is!"
And true, pro wrestlers are still phenomenal athletes and often have formal training in wrestling, and sometimes other styles. They'd trash a lot of people in a fight.
Originally posted by One Big Mob
People realize there's Navy Seals in MMA right? Not one considered the best of their weightclass or even close. In fact...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Wolff
That being said of course if you allow throat grabbing and nut punches that opens up ways to win but it also allows the fighter to do it too. And I have my doubts any SEAL would beat even current Wandy in a no rules match.
There's several military people who went into MMA, yet people are actually claiming the military isn't teaching the same shit or that this stuff doesn't work.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Embarrassing....or AWESOME????
Originally posted by Star428
It's "crazy". Sure thing, lib. Whatever u say, dude. You lost my attention as soon as u said that.
Didn't see this thread! Damn! Navy Seals can be bullied and can be gay!
Originally posted by Ol' Shellhead
Didn't see this thread! Damn! Navy Seals can be bullied and can be gay!
Which just goes to show that anything is possible!
....except for Hilldog (or any other dumbocrat) winning next years election, of course. 👆