Originally posted by Bardock42
And of course SEALs are human, like every other human. It's awful that ISIS is targeting him, but there's not much to discuss, is there?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, it is "real", but it is also a competitive sport that needs to be relatively safe and doesn't allow a lot of very effective techniques you would apply in real life because of that.
Originally posted by Surtur
Well yeah I wasn't saying it would help them in street fight, just that it is not like wrestling. Wrestling is sports entertainment whereas the MMA fights are just a sport that happens to be entertaining.
Seriously, the "ring only" techniques are pretty few and far between. I can name a few if you'd like.
Originally posted by Surtur
People in street fights don't always fight fair and sometimes they will use weapons.
Originally posted by Bardock42
The problem aren't the ring only techniques, the problem are the street only techniques.
The early days of MMA didn't really have rules either, and it was the same shit. Turns out punching people in the face is just plain effective.
Or they simply don't use them in competition. Most of these guys and girls come from other disciplines, and have in fact been disqualified when an old habit kicks in. Their training encompasses more than you think it does, being martial artists and all.
I'm sure those five bouncers Alistair Overeem sent to the hospital thought he couldn't street fight either.
Originally posted by StyleTime
No, it's the same. The military doesn't hide that fact.
WTF?! You think MMA fighters go thru the same intensive training as SEALs do? You're even more nuts than I thought u were. That's one of the most laughable things you've ever posted (and you've posted a lot). If u really think that then I'll have a hard time believing anything else you post. The only group on the planet that could give SEALs a serious challenge would be British SAS and, perhaps, DELTA force. MMA fighters are a joke next to Navy SEALs or any other U.S. special forces, for that matter.
FFS dude, MMA fighters fight to entertain people. SEALs kill like it's part of breathing. They do it to protect the interests of the United States. Trained to be the elite of the elite. This isn't even close.
I'm starting to suspect that perhaps you're just trolling at this point.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Depends on how 'Murikan you are sir. uhuhBut...it would...and has helped in street fights.
Not against a SEAL it wouldn't. SEALs are among the most efficient killers on the planet. MMA fighters aren't even in their league other than fighting for pure entertainment value.
Originally posted by Star428
WTF?! You think MMA fighters go thru the same intensive training as SEALs do? You're even more nuts than I thought u were. That's one of the most laughable things you've ever posted (and you've posted a lot). If u really think that then I'll have a hard time believing anything else you post. The only group on the planet that could give SEALs a serious challenge would be British SAS and, perhaps, DELTA force. MMA fighters are a joke next to Navy SEALs or any other U.S. special forces, for that matter.FFS dude, MMA fighters fight to entertain people. SEALs kill like it's part of breathing. They do it to protect the interests of the United States. Trained to be the elite of the elite. This isn't even close.
I'm starting to suspect that perhaps you're just trolling at this point.
Originally posted by Star428
Not against a SEAL it wouldn't. SEALs are among the most efficient killers on the planet. MMA fighters aren't even in their league other than fighting for pure entertainment value.
This is silly. It doesn't mean SEALS aren't badasses just because Jon Jones or Chris Weidman might beat them in a fight. It would be downright silly to waste time turning soldiers into martial arts gods when you could be teaching them to shoot and strategize.
Originally posted by Surtur
Of course they don't go through as intensive of training..the SEALS are trained to do more then just fight hand to hand.As for MMA you realize it is real right? They certainly borrowed some tricks from wrestling when it comes to promotion, but it's real. Also for me wrestling isn't fake..rather the outcomes are just predetermined.
Is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FRvAKdhxhQ
Bottom line is MMA fighters, just like wrestlers you see in WWF or some other wrestling organization on tv, are entertainers. SEALs are highly trained efficient killers. Even just using their hands and feet this isn't close. They don't need guns or knives to beat people who fight for purely entertainment value. While an MMA fighter is using fancy looking moves that "look cool" on tv the SEAL won't **** around and will go straight for the kill.
Originally posted by SurturI'm sure being much stronger, tougher, and faster while having far better technical skill doesn't help in a street fight at all.
Well yeah I wasn't saying it would help them in street fight, just that it is not like wrestling. Wrestling is sports entertainment whereas the MMA fights are just a sport that happens to be entertaining.
Frankly, professional wrestlers could probably also beat the average SEAL in a fist fight, due largely to their much greater average size, strength, and athleticism.
MMA fighters are overkill. They have much of that while also being considerably more technically skilled.
Ken Shamrock actually has trained soldiers in hand to hand, for example.