Originally posted by Bashar Teg
of course it is an equal ethical/moral violation for anyone to pull this act.but you cant weigh some nutter yoga class as an equal threat to 1000+ white supremacist groups in america. it would be a silly and obtuse argument to make.
Washington Post?
"GTFO". 🙂
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It's a very low-level example of racism, nothing to compared to the kind of racism that POC face every day.*If there are any white people getting furious over this it's just a sign that they have an entitlement complex, that they don't want to be barred even from things they probably wouldn't even want to be a part of otherwise.
*To elaborate on this point, there is no balance of power between white people and POC in terms of who gets discriminated against more. POC are clearly on the receiving end of it more often than not, and when someone like LP uses a small incident like this to try to obfuscate that it shows an unwillingness to seriously recognize the real problem.
Racism is racism. If there are people getting pissed over this, it's probably because they don't like racism. It's silly, disingenuous and downright petty to say that people calling out racism are somehow themselves racist and even entitled.
If a weaker person punches a stronger person, we don't ignore it and say, "Pah, it's no biggie, people are just obfuscating, yadda, yadda". We don't ignore a patient with 1st stage cancer and say, "Look, you're just not taking people seriously who have 3rd stage and up cancer, GTFO please."
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Racism is racism. If there are people getting pissed over this, it's probably because they don't like racism. It's silly, disingenuous and downright petty to say that people calling out racism are somehow themselves racist and even entitled.If a weaker person punches a stronger person, we don't ignore it and say, "Pah, it's no biggie, people are just obfuscating, yadda, yadda". We don't ignore a patient with 1st stage cancer and say, "Look, you're just not taking people seriously who have 3rd stage and up cancer, GTFO please."
Actually, there's different forms of racism, so one is not like the other.
And then there's also the common usage of the term racism, which just means prejudice (or even just discrimination) based on race. Comparing different levels of racism as the same really makes one draw wrong conclusions about situations.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually, there's different forms of racism, so one is not like the other.And then there's also the common usage of the term racism, which just means prejudice (or even just discrimination) based on race. Comparing different levels of racism as the same really makes one draw wrong conclusions about situations.
Even if I were to accept that there are different forms of racism, a 'lesser' form of racism will virtually inevitably lead to greater forms. It's better to call it out now and nip it in the bud than wait for it to turn into something far more problematic.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Even if I were to accept that there are different forms of racism, a 'lesser' form of racism will virtually inevitably lead to greater forms. It's better to call it out now and nip it in the bud than wait for it to turn into something far more problematic.
I disagree with the premise that a lesser form of racism has to lead to worse, in fact the opposite has been the case over the last century, that worse racisms have been fought against and lessened. Particularly when we talk about sociological racism on the one hand vs. the colloquial use of racism, the latter of which includes things that aren't even necessarily bad, like this case, which some people obviously think is racism, though, for the reasons I have given, isn't the same as what I actually consider racism.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree with the premise that a lesser form of racism has to lead to worse, in fact the opposite has been the case over the last century, that worse racisms have been fought against and lessened. Particularly when we talk about sociological racism on the one hand vs. the colloquial use of racism, the latter of which includes things that aren't even necessarily bad, like this case, which some people obviously think is racism, though, for the reasons I have given, isn't the same as what I actually consider racism.
Originally posted by long pig
Sorry but you're a bigot. This is a prime example of your "low expectation" racism.
You don't think they can act civil or follow rules. You even think it's racist to expect them to.
That my little brother, is racism.
Who do you mean by "them"?
Your whole assertion is bogus, really, because I explained how the situation are different, and whatever "rules" you are referring to must obviously be judged according to the different situations.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Who do you mean by "them"?Your whole assertion is bogus, really, because I explained how the situation are different, and whatever "rules" you are referring to must obviously be judged according to the different situations.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I disagree with the premise that a lesser form of racism has to lead to worse, in fact the opposite has been the case over the last century, that worse racisms have been fought against and lessened. Particularly when we talk about sociological racism on the one hand vs. the colloquial use of racism, the latter of which includes things that aren't even necessarily bad, like this case, which some people obviously think is racism, though, for the reasons I have given, isn't the same as what I actually consider racism.
Racism was lessened not because it was fought with more racism. MLK did not exclude whites from his rallies.
Whether you're employing racism or sexism, or any other form of discrimination to fight against itself, you'll eventually get shit results. When sexism was employed in a fight against sexism, it led to anti-male domestic violence laws/procedures, guilty-until-proven-innocent procedures in some college and university campuses when dealing with rape cases, etc. Racism and sexism has landed deplorable people like Bahar Mustafa in actual positions of power where they then happily proceeded to spread their bigotry.
I'll repeat myself again: treat the cancer while it's still in stage one. You'll thank yourself for it later.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Racism was lessened not because it was fought with more racism. MLK did not exclude whites from his rallies.Whether you're employing racism or sexism, or any other form of discrimination to fight against itself, you'll eventually get shit results. When sexism was employed in a fight against sexism, it led to anti-male domestic violence laws/procedures, guilty-until-proven-innocent procedures in some college and university campuses when dealing with rape cases, etc. Racism and sexism has landed deplorable people like Bahar Mustafa in actual positions of power where they then happily proceeded to spread their bigotry.
I'll repeat myself again: treat the cancer while it's still in stage one. You'll thank yourself for it later.