Body Cam Footage clearing cops in shooting death

Started by SayWhat5 pages

With Trayvon and MB, both were hardly sweet and innocent; yet in both cases it was bad security and police work. Zimmerman's role was to observe and report, not to pursuit suspects. Wilson, should have waited for back up before confronting MB. Both Zimmerman and Wilson put themselves in danger and both got a good beating for it and legally used lethal deadly force. Morally and ethically, however, they share a great role in their situations in happening by trying to do it alone.

I made it very clear to keep this thread on topic, people.

Good to see body cameras used for good.

Originally posted by long pig
Good to see body cameras used for good.

yeah not like all those times where body cams were used for evil.

Congratulations to Muniz, and the other officers, for this. As stated, they displayed an exceptional amount of restraint. Considering Muniz was actually shot once here, this encounter could've ended earlier without anyone holding them at fault. Despite that, they still tried to give the guy a chance to stand down.

I do wonder if training to deal with mentally ill/suicidal people would have any impact in situations like these.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Congratulations to Muniz, and the other officers, for this. As stated, they displayed an exceptional amount of restraint. Considering Muniz was actually shot once here, this encounter could've ended earlier without anyone holding them at fault. Despite that, they still tried to give the guy a chance to stand down.

I do wonder if training to deal with mentally ill/suicidal people would have any impact in situations like these.

I think it does, have you seen the "Last Week Tonight" episode on mental illness and gun violence:

YouTube video

It's very good.

Here is my only real contentions on body cams

1.) price
2.) conspiracy theorists

The first is obviously a major budget issue, when LA looked into body cams for all its officers, they found it would cost over a billion dollars. That is way outside their budget.

The second is more my worry. "Oh the footage has been doctored" and now we just are back at square one

A BILLION? That's an extraordinary claim that will require more than just assertion- we need some sourced facts here about what that figure really means, on what scale, over what sort of time etc.

The second issue is irrelevant- conspiracy theorists of that magnitude are a fringe. Footage will convince the majority.

So just to be clear..a cop is trigger happy if a dude goes to grab his gun and then the cop shoots said dude?

Originally posted by Surtur
So just to be clear..a cop is trigger happy if a dude goes to grab his gun and then the cop shoots said dude?

It was a mistake to put that in the OP. If you want to discuss it we can use this thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t618510.html

No man it's a mistake to put that anywhere.

EDIT: I didn't see Ush didn't want this being talked about, but seriously it was in the opening post. That is a mighty big elephant to ask people to ignore.

Originally posted by Surtur
No man it's a mistake to put that anywhere.

EDIT: I didn't see Ush didn't want this being talked about, but seriously it was in the opening post. That is a mighty big elephant to ask people to ignore.

I disagree, if you would like to discuss it I will do so in the other thread.

What do you think about the officers in the video? They handled the situation exceptionally well, don't you think?

Sure they did fine, but keep in mind a persons behavior changes if they know they are being filmed.

Originally posted by Surtur
Sure they did fine, but keep in mind a persons behavior changes if they know they are being filmed.

Well, yes that's part of the point of this thread. Body-cameras have a positive influence on officers as well.

Originally posted by Surtur
Sure they did fine, but keep in mind a persons behavior changes if they know they are being filmed.

you seem to be suggesting that this is a bad thing.

It's not bad, I just saw talk of heroes and stuff in the thread. Not to say they aren't.

tbh i don't care about unwarranted fanfair for people in uniform, as long as those being hailed are not actually psychopaths who took the job to be above the law and **** with people.

I don't really care either..I just meant it's hard to judge if they'd behave like this no matter what or only because the camera's were rolling.

Makes me wonder about potential loopholes too. I guess loophole is the wrong word, but I wonder about...how hard are these body cams to destroy? Can they be hacked?

Some of them can be turned off, which is of course very suspicious.

I'd wonder how they get turned off. Just because what if there was a way where a cop could say he accidentally switched it off.

Once cams become more and more prevalent it will be interesting to see the statistics of altercations with cops.