Peak Power Onslaught vs H/P Doomsday...

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
while you try to argue on potential, trying to give Onslaught feats of other characters, try to argue a no limits fallacy

We don't argue what we think a character should theoretically be capable of... We argue what they actually did in the comics. Stooping so low as to use no-limits fallacies for Onslaught is pretty ridiculous, tbh.

Anywho, I'm sure LOM will respond to this and try to act like Onslaught has done all this high-end BS he's tried crediting him with. The fact is: he hasn't(that's likely why LOM hasn't posted any scans/issue #'s to support his case.) Suffice to say: I'm done here. This thread has just devolved into "yes he can!", "no he can't!" drivel anyway... And I want no part of that.

The last word is now up for grabs. Bye-bye. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
That's still all I've seen presented on Onslaught's behalf. The most 'reality warping' Onslaught demonstrated on-panel was creating a miniature sun. That's it. If he creates a sun here, however, it will only serve to amp DD, so...

We don't argue what we think a character should theoretically be capable of... We argue what they actually did in the comics. Stooping so low as to use no-limits fallacies for Onslaught is pretty ridiculous, tbh.

Anywho, I'm sure LOM will respond to this and try to act like Onslaught has done all this high-end BS he's tried crediting him with. The fact is: he hasn't(that's likely why LOM hasn't posted any scans/issue #'s to support his case.) Suffice to say: I'm done here. This thread has just devolved into "yes he can!", "no he can't!" drivel anyway... And I want no part of that.

The last word is now up for grabs. Bye-bye. 👆

I agree 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
That's still all I've seen presented on Onslaught's behalf. The most 'reality warping' Onslaught demonstrated on-panel was creating a miniature sun. That's it. If he creates a sun here, however, it will only serve to amp DD, so...

We don't argue what we think a character should theoretically be capable of... We argue what they actually did in the comics. Stooping so low as to use no-limits fallacies for Onslaught is pretty ridiculous, tbh.

Anywho, I'm sure LOM will respond to this and try to act like Onslaught has done all this high-end BS he's tried crediting him with. The fact is: he hasn't(that's likely why LOM hasn't posted any scans/issue #'s to support his case.) Suffice to say: I'm done here. This thread has just devolved into "yes he can!", "no he can't!" drivel anyway... And I want no part of that.

The last word is now up for grabs. Bye-bye. 👆

DarkStar wins.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's still all I've seen presented on Onslaught's behalf. The most 'reality warping' Onslaught demonstrated on-panel was creating a miniature sun. That's it. If he creates a sun here, however, it will only serve to amp DD, so...

We don't argue what we think a character should theoretically be capable of... We argue what they actually did in the comics. Stooping so low as to use no-limits fallacies for Onslaught is pretty ridiculous, tbh.

Anywho, I'm sure LOM will respond to this and try to act like Onslaught has done all this high-end BS he's tried crediting him with. The fact is: he hasn't(that's likely why LOM hasn't posted any scans/issue #'s to support his case.) Suffice to say: I'm done here. This thread has just devolved into "yes he can!", "no he can't!" drivel anyway... And I want no part of that.

The last word is now up for grabs. Bye-bye. 👆

If this is the conclusion you've come to then clearly you havent read the thread or have failed to comprehend the arguments made here...

Maybe I need to bump a few posts as I dont want to feel like a broken record...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Doomsday would be transmutted before he could adapt...game over.

Besides, lets be clear on something; a reality warper doesnt have to do every conceivable thing with his power before reasonable assumptions can be made...

Does a Cosmic Cube have to transmute Hawkeye into a carrot to prove it could do it?

Of course not; you know that the Cube has high end reality warp, Hawkeye has been harmed by far less than CCU level reality warp, and that high end reality warp has been demonstrated on panel...

Same applies here with Onslaught...

Of course some of you are being logic defying as you just don't like the idea of Doomsday losing like this...

This version of Doomsday has been harmed by less than Solar levels of reality warp...

Those are the facts...

The above is major point here...

Some of you, Galan and Rao especially, are arguing under the idiotic premise that even though Onslaught has Solar level reality warp, it doesnt mean he can reality warp a slightly larger than mansized object...

And that is, as the above post points to, an incredibly weak argument...

No matter its target, Solar level of reality warp is Solar level reality warp; you guys attempt to downplay it as if its a non-feat or its meaningless when nothing of the sort could be further of the truth...

HP Doomsday was harmed by far less than this level of power and if you cant understand or comprehend the reasoning of that then god bless your soul...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Solar level reality warp>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sonic Gun.

The Sonic Gun hurt HP Doomsday...

Solar level Reality Warp will destroy him utterly...

Reasonable logic Galan...

Reasonable logic...

The only idiotic argument is to compare the invulnerability of thin air to Doomsday's invulnerabilty, when He has survived reality shattering forces.

Or trying to give OS feats of Franklin and apply no limit fallacies. 😂

The Sonic Gun was powered by a Motherbox; New God tech.

It wasn't exactly a Radio Shack construction.

Odin is smaller than a star; can Onslaught warp him?

Adult Franklin is smaller still; so is Molecule Man, the Beyonder, hell, a thousand Beyonders are still smaller than a sun.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The Sonic Gun was powered by a Motherbox; New God tech.

It wasn't exactly a Radio Shack construction.

Odin is smaller than a star; can Onslaught warp him?

Adult Franklin is smaller still; so is Molecule Man, the Beyonder, hell, a thousand Beyonders are still smaller than a sun.

I think he got the gun at a flea market or maybe at toys r us 😱

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
The only idiotic argument is to compare the invulnerability of thin air to Doomsday's invulnerabilty, when He has survived reality shattering forces.

Or trying to give OS feats of Franklin and apply no limit fallacies. 😂

No, the idiocy is you claiming that I'm giving Onslaught Franklins feats when I have done no such thing...

The idiocy is you saying Doomsday is Invulnerable when comics show he is very vulnerable...

The idiocy is you arguing about Reality Warp when you dont even know what it is...

The idiocy is you using a showing where Doomsday was defeated as a "feat" for him...

There is lots of idiocy in this thread; none of it belongs to me though...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The Sonic Gun was powered by a Motherbox; New God tech.

It wasn't exactly a Radio Shack construction.

Odin is smaller than a star; can Onslaught warp him?

Adult Franklin is smaller still; so is Molecule Man, the Beyonder, hell, a thousand Beyonders are still smaller than a sun.

Everyone you just named has demonstrated much more on panel power than Onslaught has; them resisting an attempted Reality Warp by Onslaught is reasonable...especially since all of them have resisted greater force than Solar level reality warp on panel.

Doomsday isnt in that weight class and doesnt have feats on their level under his belt...

Now I know you know better than this DarkSaint...

You know my argument as pertains this thread and reality warp is sound; why are you arguing against it?

Do you really think Doomsday wins here?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No, the idiocy is you claiming that I'm giving Onslaught Franklins feats when I have done no such thing...

The idiocy is you saying Doomsday is Invulnerable when comics show he is very vulnerable...

The idiocy is you arguing about Reality Warp when you dont even know what it is...

The idiocy is you using a showing where Doomsday was defeated as a "feat" for him...

There is lots of idiocy in this thread; none of it belongs to me though...

So transmutating air into hydrogen and helium is the same as transmutating a character who survived reality shattering forces and then became stronger?

Got it, next probably someone will claim that transmutating a puppy is = to transmute a near invulnerable character 😂

Good job I am impressed... 👆

In case you don't get it I am being sarcastic 🙂

And is better if We just leave it at that. We disagree and that's all.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
So transmutating air into hydrogen and helio is the same as transmutating a character who survived reality shattering forces and then became stronger?

Got it, next probably someone will claim that transmutating a puppy is = to transmute a near invulnerable character 😂

Good job I am impressed... 👆

In case you don't get it I am being sarcastic 🙂

Be sarcastic all you want; everything I posted in my quote is true...

Every word of it...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No, the idiocy is you claiming that I'm giving Onslaught Franklins feats when I have done no such thing...

The idiocy is you saying Doomsday is Invulnerable when comics show he is very vulnerable...

The idiocy is you arguing about Reality Warp when you dont even know what it is...

The idiocy is you using a showing where Doomsday was defeated as a "feat" for him...

There is lots of idiocy in this thread; none of it belongs to me though...

Tell me Rao, whats false here?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Tell me Rao, whats false here?

That is idiotic, Respectfully, just let it go dude, We disagree and that is all

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That is idiotic, Respectfully, just let it go dude, We disagree and that is all

Yes, we definitely disagree...

Thanx for confirming the truth of my quoted post though...

👆

I didn't confirm anything just that We disagree and that's all.

Good talking to you and thank for being civil most of the time

When has Adult Franklin resisted a reality warp?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I didn't confirm anything just that We disagree and that's all.

Good talking to you and thank for being civil most of the time

Np...

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