Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But based on actual feats, not hype, Onslaught has not done anything that MM can't replicate. Not, 'oh, Xavier+Franklin + XX' hype, actual feats.Hulk, when he had his intelligence turned off, was too much for Onslaught to control.
Which shows that H/P Doomsday, lacking the intelligence, would be too much for Onslaught.
Not to mention, it was a WEAKER Doomsday that resisted MM.
Brainiac, despite being multiversal, was actually WEAKENING in his control DESPITE his best efforts.
No DarkSaint, why do you keep saying that MM can replicate Onslaughts psionic feats? You know its not true...tell me, can MM create a psionic storm capable of killing all of the Avengers? You know the answer to that...
Also, the hero's that faced Onslaught at the end of the original storyline were prepped with psionic resistance before the start of battle...they did it because it would have been over before it started without it.
So you saying that mindless Hulk was beyond his control was completely wrong as all the hero's were prepped against psionic attack before hand...DD doesnt have any prep here.
So, once again, why cant an Xavier level telepath leeching Franklin and Nate not be capable of mind controlling Doomsday?
Originally posted by Genii96you think his energy form will effect Doomsday when he's dealt with similar and won. What great psionic showing? His warping power lol creating a sun in battle won't do shit to Doomsday. Onslaught needs feats not hype to win.
Pretty sure more believe onslaught wins...and after hulk broke his armour,onslaught was rather happy...judging by the amount of psionic abilities he possesses,and his reality warping powers,I'd give him the win.....
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
No DarkSaint, why do you keep saying that MM can replicate Onslaughts psionic feats? You know its not true...tell me, can MM create a psionic storm capable of killing all of the Avengers? You know the answer to that...Also, the hero's that faced Onslaught at the end of the original storyline were prepped with psionic resistance before the start of battle...they did it because it would have been over before it started without it.
So you saying that mindless Hulk was beyond his control was completely wrong as all the hero's were prepped against psionic attack before hand...DD doesnt have any prep here.
So, once again, why cant an Xavier level telepath leeching Franklin and Nate not be capable of mind controlling Doomsday?
So are you saying Onslaught's best feat was the psionic storm? Nothing else?
Black Lantern MM's telepathy was doing this to an amped Flash (who, unamped, has pretty good TP feats), Larfleeze, Atrocitus, Hal, and amped Wonder Woman, and two Guardians of Oa (who also are pretty powerful in their own right):
http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2840452-blackest_night__8_008.jpg
Reason why I am saying it, is because he never showed what he did with Franklin/Nate's powers, which is what Galan was asking all this time. Feats, not hyperbole - after all, Colossaunaut, Sodom Yat et al would be incredible trans characters, IF their amps stacked as they should do on paper.
Originally posted by Insane Titan
you think his energy form will effect Doomsday when he's dealt with similar and won. What great psionic showing? His warping power lol creating a sun in battle won't do shit to Doomsday. Onslaught needs feats not hype to win.
The point is that Doomsday has no answer to Onslaughts energy form; Doomsdays trick worked against the Radiant because he'd faced him before and evolved a counter specifically for him...
It would be Doomsdays 1st time facing Onslaught and Doomsday would have no pre-existing daptation against him...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
You are being misleading here...That only worked because Doomsday evolved specifically against the Radiant...
Doomsday has never faced Onslaught before and that wont work against him...
He has faced psionic energy before - and was defeating Brainiac when Brainy tried. He later on faced MM, who tried mental attacks, and wtfpwned him.
Unless Onslaught one shot kills Doomsday, which we haven't seen any psionic feats from him to say that he can. He CAN, however, create suns to try and kill Doomsday - but he has already faced better.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So are you saying Onslaught's best feat was the psionic storm? Nothing else?Black Lantern MM's telepathy was doing this to an amped Flash (who, unamped, has pretty good TP feats), Larfleeze, Atrocitus, Hal, and amped Wonder Woman, and two Guardians of Oa (who also are pretty powerful in their own right):
http://static.comicvine.com/api/image/original/2840452-blackest_night__8_008.jpgReason why I am saying it, is because he never showed what he did with Franklin/Nate's powers, which is what Galan was asking all this time. Feats, not hyperbole - after all, Colossaunaut, Sodom Yat et al would be incredible trans characters, IF their amps stacked as they should do on paper.
Oh no, Onslaught was capable of more; he could created psionic constructs of apparently anyone...
Whats to stop Onslaught from making a psionic construct of HP Doomsday and then the two of them double team the real Doomsday?
There is no PIS to prevent this from happening here...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Oh no, Onslaught was capable of more; he could created psionic constructs of apparently anyone...Whats to stop Onslaught from making a psionic construct of HP Doomsday and then the two of them double team the real Doomsday?
There is no PIS to prevent this from happening here...
So please, list out the greatest feats of Onslaught's psi-powers.
CIS is still there, though.
I agree, there is nothing stopping Onslaught from creating a psionic energy version of Doomsday.
Whilst that Doomsday fights the real Doomsday, he will adapt to the energy, and rip Onslaught a new hole.
He does not need to die in order to adapt to energies.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So please, list out the greatest feats of Onslaught's psi-powers.CIS is still there, though.
I agree, there is nothing stopping Onslaught from creating a psionic energy version of Doomsday.
Whilst that Doomsday fights the real Doomsday, he will adapt to the energy, and rip Onslaught a new hole.
He does not need to die in order to adapt to energies.
That just means Onslaught has to destroy Doomsday with reality warp while the doppleganger distracts him...
Of course I'm still convinced that without psionic shielding (which the hero's had and Doomsday doesnt), Onslaught ends the battle immediately via psionic attack...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Maxima is also no where near Xavier+Nate+Franklin in ability...
You were asking if he has faced psionics before, which will give him an edge against psionic attacks.
He has faced psionics in the past, so there is nothing new that DD hasn't evolved or could adapt on the fly.
So he has faced psionics and he has faced energy beings two things that he has shown to adapt on the fly as well. What is OS going to do? Atacking him with an psionic energy construct or mind rape him? None of those will work and if they work for a minute he will adapt on the fly like he did vs waveryder.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
You were asking if he has faced psionics before, which will give him an edge against psionic attacks.He has faced psionics in the past, so there is nothing new that DD hasn't evolved or could adapt on the fly.
So he has faced psionics and he has faced energy beings two things that he has shown to adapt on the fly as well. What is OS going to do? Atacking him with an psionic energy construct or mind rape him? None of those will work and if they work for a minute he will adapt on the fly like he did vs waveryder.
They only need to work for a minute...
Thats more than enough time for Onslaught to reality warp Doomsday into a sun and end the battle...
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yes, didn't you read Hunter prey and Doomsday wars?Hunter prey was a masively amped Superman
Doomsday wars, Superman barely did anything to him.
Superman sliced through him which is physical damage. Superman also punched blood out of his mouth which is physical damage as well.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderLmao, do you even understand how HP DD worked.
The point is that Doomsday has no answer to Onslaughts energy form; Doomsdays trick worked against the Radiant because he'd faced him before and evolved a counter specifically for him...It would be Doomsdays 1st time facing Onslaught and Doomsday would have no pre-existing daptation against him...
