At one point Parallax (Hal) was Multiversal, so the power is somwhere in between Trans and Multiversal, depending on story and intention. I would say the Guardian are about Low to Mid Skyfather, sans Krona and such, still far below the classic celestials. Arhishem could solo them all. I could see Parallax (Zero Hour) soloing the whole Celestial race though.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
At one point Parallax (Hal) was Multiversal, so the power is somwhere in between Trans and Multiversal, depending on story and intention. I would say the Guardian are about Low to Mid Skyfather, sans Krona and such, still far below the classic celestials. Arhishem could solo them all. I could see Parallax (Zero Hour) soloing the whole Celestial race though.
Hal Parallax in Zero Hour was definitely multiversal. Ion I was definitely uber as well. Every other incarnation since has been trans at best.
The height of the Guardian's powers in recent memory (sans Krona) was probably Ganthet in around Rebirth-era. In that he stomped Kilowog with a hand behind his back, he was said to be omnisicent (though that was obvious hyperbole), and he restored damage caused to a planet and the planets military with a wave of his hand.
To call the rest of those phuckers anything above HH/LT is wishful thinking. They're all talk and no action, and they collectively died against a trans character (so did the Controllers for that matter, their supposed equals/offshoots).
Originally posted by Cogito
The most powerful of them (Krona), who wrecked the rest, was killed by Hal.
Originally posted by Cogito
All of them died against Sinestro.All of them.
A single Guardian overpowered SBP and his suicide atomized him. Not even Monarch explosion could do so.
Ganthet himself stalemated White Lantern Kyle with all the entities.
Guardians don't have space cheese feats like Odin or celestials but they are consistently above heralds by a large gap.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
The guardian didn't overpower nor atomize SBP though, the kamikaze attack just BFR'd him.
And then he was removed from the universe Atom by Atom. He somehow absorbed the power and was more powerful than ever.
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Originally posted by abhilegendHis highest. But we're talking about Celestials here.
Which is a high showing for Hal.
Originally posted by abhilegendBFR'd and supercharged him. With today's pathetic Celestials, a Guardian suicide might kill one, but they're so outnumbered it won't help any.
A single Guardian overpowered SBP and his suicide atomized him. Not even Monarch explosion could do so.
Originally posted by abhilegendWL Kyle with all the entities didn't do anything impressive. Also, all of the new replacement Guardians later admitted they were totally bluffing when they said they could take on WL Kyle with just most of the entities.
Ganthet himself stalemated White Lantern Kyle with all the entities.
Originally posted by abhilegendVery true. You'd have a hard time finding characters with more appearances and fewer feats. Obviously they work almost exclusively through others (Lanterns) and their best feats (such as capturing the entities and harnessing the spectrums) was performed billions of years ago so we've never seen it/can't use it.
Guardians don't have space cheese feats like Odin or celestials but they are consistently above heralds by a large gap.
However, the feats that we have seen aren't that impressive. Are they above herald level? Absolutely. Above trans? No, imo. High end Ganthet might be low Skyfather, but thats about it.
Originally posted by Cogito
His highest. But we're talking about Celestials here.
Yes, the same celestials who die by a simple enchantment.
BFR'd and supercharged him. With today's pathetic Celestials, a Guardian suicide might kill one, but they're so outnumbered it won't help any.
Not really. He overpowered SBP pretty convincingly.
WL Kyle with all the entities didn't do anything impressive. Also, all of the new replacement Guardians later admitted they were totally bluffing when they said they could take on WL Kyle with just most of the entities.
He filled and rejuvenated source wall. That's pretty much an abstract level feat.
Ganthet even stalemating him is a better feat than anything Odin or celestials have performed.
Very true. You'd have a hard time finding characters with more appearances and fewer feats. Obviously they work almost exclusively through others (Lanterns) and their best feats (such as capturing the entities and harnessing the spectrums) was performed billions of years ago so we've never seen it/can't use it.
However, the feats that we have seen aren't that impressive. Are they above herald level? Absolutely. Above trans? No, imo. High end Ganthet might be low Skyfather, but thats about it.
Completely disagree. Geoff Johns doesn't writes space cheese for his high level characters.
It doesn't means they aren't that powerful. His Guardians are skyfather level on average.
Like I said a single Guardian overpowered SBP more convincingly than say Odin did against Thanos.
You are getting too hung up on "Galaxy busting" here.
Originally posted by abhilegendWell, I wouldn't call a powerful grip 'overpowering' but w/e.
The Guardian overpowered SBP. He was helpless to set himself free and was openly asking for help.And then he was removed from the universe Atom by Atom. He somehow absorbed the power and was more powerful than ever.
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. He overpowered SBP pretty convincingly.
This is what you consider "overpowered convincingly"? This is 100% of the fight. Literally all the Guardian did was suicide when it appeared SBP was going to kill him anyways. And it didn't hurt SBP, it BFRd him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He filled and rejuvenated source wall. That's pretty much an abstract level feat.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ganthet even stalemating him is a better feat than anything Odin or celestials have performed.
Originally posted by abhilegendBased on what? What have Johns' Guardians done to even rate as mid-high trans? Thanos would shitstomp them ffs
Completely disagree. Geoff Johns doesn't writes space cheese for his high level characters.It doesn't means they aren't that powerful. His Guardians are skyfather level on average.
Originally posted by abhilegend
You are getting too hung up on "Galaxy busting" here.
You're too hung up on absolutely nothing, because that's what the Guardians' feats amount to.
