Namor Vs GL Hal, slugfest

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
By that I meant, they're in the same tier.

Hell, here on KMC he's aHigh Meta, same as Thing. Assuming we've been generous to Thing, Namor would be Low Herald....

Hulk is Mid, but that's obv wrong, lol.

IOW, Thing is close to Namor than Namor is to Hulk.

Originally posted by Genii96
Namor a high meta? Wow.
He stalemates hercules on land every damn time
Stalemates or beats hulk almost every damn time
Has stalemated almost every high end brick
Beat ares and wonderman at once
Supported utopia island etc
We'll,if that is how he is ranked here,that's fine,comic book feats put him easily in hercules and hulk's tier,especially underwater
Hell of a lot above ben grimm,whom he has oneshotted several times

Herc is a Low Herald here.

Ares is High Meta.

As is Wonder Man.

So, yeah, Namor seems in the Low Herald, as I said.

GL Hal is still High Herald.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Herc is a Low Herald here.

Ares is High Meta.

As is Wonder Man.

So, yeah, Namor seems in the Low Herald, as I said.

GL Hal is still High Herald.

Except Hal.

Originally posted by Mindset
All those rankings are wrong though.

Except Hal.

You're wrong.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're wrong.

Sorry.

To be a Herald one must possess at least one of the following

1. Flight
2. Teleportation
3. Bullet or greater Speed

This is because without any of these things any Herald level being can bfr them and win every time.

Originally posted by h1a8
To be a Herald one must possess at least one of the following

1. Flight
2. Teleportation
3. Speed

This is because without any of these things any Herald level being can bfr them and win every time.

It still wouldn't make them not a herald, though.

It's about power level and ability, not specific kinds of powers.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It still wouldn't make them not a herald, though.

It's about power level and ability, not specific kinds of powers.

Originally posted by h1a8
sorry, I meant they need at least one of those as a prerequisite to making the Herald tier.

The point still stands, though.

There are plenty of people with none of those that still compete with other heralds.

Originally posted by h1a8
To be a Herald one must possess at least one of the following

1. Flight
2. Teleportation
3. Bullet or greater Speed

This is because without any of these things any Herald level being can bfr them and win every time.

Originally posted by -Pr-
The point still stands, though.

There are plenty of people with none of those that still compete with other heralds.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's because the heralds don't attempt to bfr them.
If they did then they would win easily every time.

No, they wouldn't, because they've tried it, with only varying levels of success.

Not to pull a carver, but:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111230790/4720135-hulk+goes+wherever+he+wants+to+go.jpg

By your logic, Hulk shouldn't be Herald level.

Originally posted by Genii96
Namor a high meta? Wow.
He stalemates hercules on land every damn time
Stalemates or beats hulk almost every damn time
Has stalemated almost every high end brick
Beat ares and wonderman at once
Supported utopia island etc
We'll,if that is how he is ranked here,that's fine,comic book feats put him easily in hercules and hulk's tier,especially underwater
Hell of a lot above ben grimm,whom he has oneshotted several times

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not to pull a carver, but:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11123/111230790/4720135-hulk+goes+wherever+he+wants+to+go.jpg

By your logic, Hulk shouldn't be Herald level.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, they wouldn't, because they've tried it, with only varying levels of success.

Hulk (and Namor) have caught tank rounds in flight. Thats right about bullet speed. Bullets average between 3,500 and 5,000 feet per second; tank rounds usually top out at 3,500.

Originally posted by h1a8
To be a Herald one must possess at least one of the following

1. Flight
2. Teleportation
3. Bullet or greater Speed

This is because without any of these things any Herald level being can bfr them and win every time.

Namor has dodged a sonic attack at point blank,dodged a meteor storm while weaving through them in space,caught canon fire,humiliated the whizzer
What makes hercules low herald? Namor can do just about anything hercules can,with the addition of flight and energy absorbtion
Why is hercules higher? And why is namor in the same leage as ares?

Originally posted by h1a8
I stated Hulk wasn't a herald years ago. He's the primary reason I have the stance. Hulk could be bfr into space or another state with a simple throw or punch with sufficient force.
He has to be able to get back to the battlefield in a reasonable time (whatever that is).

If they are able to avoid bfr with any level of success then that means they have the speed and reflexes to defend against it (which is at least bullet speed and reflexes). Now when i mention speed im not referring to traveling speed necessarily but at least reflex or hand speed. Otherwise, they couldnt defend against getting hit or thrown or teleported far from the battlefield by a herald since they don't have the sufficient reflex or hand speed.

You mean the reflexes almost every single superhero has?

Hard to think of a hero that hasn't dodged bullets before.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You mean the reflexes almost every single superhero has?

Hard to think of a hero that hasn't dodged bullets before.

I mean from up close. Thing hasn't I don't think and Juggernaut hasnt. But he's not always a hero.

Originally posted by riv6672
Hulk (and Namor) have caught tank rounds in flight. Thats right about bullet speed. Bullets average between 3,500 and 5,000 feet per second; tank rounds usually top out at 3,500.

Originally posted by Genii96
First off,that's wrong
Second,namor has 1 and 3