Originally posted by h1a8
Every herald of Galactus can bfr. We are basing a herald level character on the premise he/she can contend with an actual herald of Galactus. This is the very definition of Herald level. Otherwise, why use the word "herald" to describe them?
You also only use their powersets, rather than their character.
Without actually using constructs and just his aura and fists I don't see how Hal wins. Is there an example of him taking down someone like namor with just his fists? He can't be nearly as strong as opponents namor has fought already. Hulk, thor, sentry, herc, surfer, abom, etc? How could he KO him? Is there an example of him tanking 100+ class blows in a conclusive fight to the end without fields or constructs? I doubt it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I didn't say all herald level characters can bfr. I said all heralds of Galactus can. You have to be able to contend with heralds of Galactus to be considered herald level.
Invisible Boy can't.Not sure Air-Walker, Terrax, Nova etc could...
Heralds of Galactus could bfr by hitting or throwing someone far away.
Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say all herald level characters can bfr. I said all heralds of Galactus can. You have to be able to contend with heralds of Galactus to be considered herald level.Heralds of Galactus could bfr by hitting or throwing someone far away.
The guys I named are heralds of Galactus.
Hulk can throw someone pretty far away.
Originally posted by -Pr-You mean herald level characters. This is true as they can contend with the heralds of Galactus.
On this forum there are more heralds than heralds of galactus, though.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85The key is "can", not will.
You also only use their powersets, rather than their character.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Without actually using constructs and just his aura and fists I don't see how Hal wins. Is there an example of him taking down someone like namor with just his fists? He can't be nearly as strong as opponents namor has fought already. Hulk, thor, sentry, herc, surfer, abom, etc? How could he KO him? Is there an example of him tanking 100+ class blows in a conclusive fight to the end without fields or constructs? I doubt it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85But they can't contend if they did bfr. It doesn't matter if they do or don't. This is just my take anyway. I wouldn't call myself a herald level being knowing that I can only contend if the Herald of Galactus chooses not to bfr me.
Exactly. Can, not will.Other herald level characters [b]can
contend with the heralds, as they don't BFR. [/B]
Originally posted by namorsubby
Without actually using constructs and just his aura and fists I don't see how Hal wins. Is there an example of him taking down someone like namor with just his fists? He can't be nearly as strong as opponents namor has fought already. Hulk, thor, sentry, herc, surfer, abom, etc? How could he KO him? Is there an example of him tanking 100+ class blows in a conclusive fight to the end without fields or constructs? I doubt it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-evrbQNsuT7g/VgVL_oFwrvI/AAAAAAAQaBE/VmXiUFvl16E/s1600/12_11.jpg
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Straight up punched Cyborg Superman's jaw off who had ten GL rings at that point.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Looks like theres a construct on his hand that resembles a spiked metal glove because there is. Extremely high end still.Hal is not physically strong enough to beat Namor without using his ring or protect himself from namor indefinitely without using his ring. There is no evidence to support this.
His armor is a construct. He just said the guy shattered his arm and knee. He hit him with steels hammer apparently(ie not his fists) so hard it broke and still didn't knock him out immediately.
Seriously namor koed the hulk in one shot. He got an ass kicking from voided sentry but was completely unharmed. No. Way.
Originally posted by namorsubby
His armor is a construct. He just said the guy shattered his arm and knee. He hit him with steels hammer apparently(ie not his fists) so hard it broke and still didn't knock him out immediately.Seriously namor koed the hulk in one shot. He got an ass kicking from voided sentry but was completely unharmed. No. Way.
He was physically overpowering Mongul too.
During that fight did you see him once hurt him with his fists? No. Everytime he was hit by his opponent he was seriously injured. When he amped he was powerful enough to lift and throw the other guy which had little affect. He was crawling on the floor reaching for a weapon after mogul hit him a few times. A weapon that saved his life. And his constructed armor was holding him together.
Originally posted by namorsubby
During that fight did you see him once hurt him with his fists? No. Everytime he was hit by his opponent he was seriously injured. When he amped he was powerful enough to lift and throw the other guy which had little affect. He was crawling on the floor reaching for a weapon after mogul hit him a few times. A weapon that saved his life. And his constructed armor was holding him together.
He hit Mongul with his strength and a hammer since the ring couldn't affect him. Its a pure strength feat.
He hit him with a weapon, not his fists. He used constructs. He amped to throw him. For all I know the constructed armor could've also amped his strength.
GL is not as strong as namor there is nothing to prove this. GL can't KO Namor with his fists there's nothing to suggest he can especially after all the 100+ class strength opponents namor has contended with.
