Namor Vs GL Hal, slugfest

Started by -Pr-9 pages

Even if they didn't, I still don't see how it disqualifies them. You act like BFRing is easy. It isn't.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Even if they didn't, I still don't see how it disqualifies them. You act like BFRing is easy. It isn't.
It's not. But against a herald level character it is. See how easy Juggernaut was bfr several times in comics (once by Hulk).

Lol iow, Cassandra Cain with a jet pack = herald.

Or Deadpool, when he could teleport.

Does Nightcrawler have bullet timing feats? Herald.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol iow, Cassandra Cain with a jet pack = herald.

Or Deadpool, when he could teleport.

Does Nightcrawler have bullet timing feats? Herald.

no, I explained earlier those are prerequisites and not the only requirements. It's like the test for divergence. The test doesn't prove convergence.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's not. But against a herald level character it is. See how easy Juggernaut was bfr several times in comics (once by Hulk).

Doesn't make him not a Herald, though.

Originally posted by h1a8
I mean from up close. Thing hasn't I don't think and Juggernaut hasnt. But he's not always a hero.

OK then they might meet the speed criterion. But can Hulk react to those speeds from 5ft away?

lol I'm not claiming Namor isn't herald level. He can fly obviously.

You don't make the rules on who's a Herald or not.

Galactus does.

Originally posted by carver9
You don't make the rules on who's a Herald or not.
No one does. There is no official list. This is a versus forum. It's just a matter of opinion. If a character can lose to every herald easily with a certain tactic then I wouldn't say they are on the heralds level.

Hal has taken on stronger beings than Namor and beat them down. Like Mongul or General.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Doesn't make him not a Herald, though.

Oh course it does. Herald is just a made up term with no strict definition. The true meaning of the word is a messenger of good news or a person viewed as a sign of what's to happen. The term used here on kmc stems from the 'heralds of Galactus'. People who are herald level (not necessarily a herald in the true sense ) are those who can compete with heralds of Galactus in a fight.

Those who can't are not herald level.

Originally posted by h1a8
Oh course it does. Herald is just a made up term with no strict definition. The true meaning of the word is a messenger of good news or a person viewed as a sign of what's to happen. The term used here on kmc stems from the 'heralds of Galactus'. People who are herald level (not necessarily a herald in the true sense ) are those who can compete with heralds of Galactus in a fight.

Those who can't are not herald level.

You just contradicted yourself.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You just contradicted yourself.
lol, I did? My point is that a character has to be able to defend against a herald to a reasonable degree against the bfr tactic in order to contend with them. I admit that I was more narrow minded as I now see there are more ways to defend. Shields, intangibility, invisibility, etc. So I'll just say that to be a Herald level character one must be able to contend well with a herald of Galactus. This includes having some decent form of defense against bfr.

Originally posted by h1a8
lol, I did? My point is that a character has to be able to defend against a herald to a reasonable degree against the bfr tactic in order to contend with them. I admit that I was more narrow minded as I now see there are more ways to defend. Shields, intangibility, invisibility, etc. So I'll just say that to be a Herald level character one must be able to contend well with a herald of Galactus. This includes having some decent form of defense against bfr.

not every herald level character can bfr though.

Why exactly is namor in the same tier an ares and wonderman?

I'm ok with Namor being a low herald, he does have immense power.

Because the thread hasn't been updated in a while, is why.

Originally posted by -Pr-
not every herald level character can bfr though.
Every herald of Galactus can bfr. We are basing a herald level character on the premise he/she can contend with an actual herald of Galactus. This is the very definition of Herald level. Otherwise, why use the word "herald" to describe them?

Originally posted by h1a8
Every herald of Galactus can bfr. We are basing a herald level character on the premise he/she can contend with an actual herald of Galactus. This is the very definition of Herald level. Otherwise, why use the word "herald" to describe them?

Invisible Boy can't.

Not sure Air-Walker, Terrax, Nova etc could...

Originally posted by h1a8
Every herald of Galactus can bfr. We are basing a herald level character on the premise he/she can contend with an actual herald of Galactus. This is the very definition of Herald level. Otherwise, why use the word "herald" to describe them?
The Spot is high trans. 👆

Originally posted by h1a8
Every herald of Galactus can bfr. We are basing a herald level character on the premise he/she can contend with an actual herald of Galactus. This is the very definition of Herald level. Otherwise, why use the word "herald" to describe them?

On this forum there are more heralds than heralds of galactus, though.