Arrow team vs. Agents of SHIELD

Started by FrothByte3 pages
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Oliver is way above their level and Bobbi really never impressed me.

What makes you think Oliver is way above their level?

I'd argue Oliver is perhaps the best combatant here though the weak link on the agents team should be better that Laurel sans Canary Cry.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well first off, the agents use body armor, which team Arrow doesn't. AOS also use icers, not exactly bullets. The agents are about as accurate with their guns as team arrow is with their bows... meaning they almost always hit their targets as long as it's fodder and somehow keep missing when it's the big bad villain.

Team arrow use fancier moves in h2h but AOS team usually incapacitate their opponents in fewer moves.

I'm not saying team AOS wins, I just think you're seriously underestimating them.

lmao at body armor .... can you prove that the s.h.i.e.l.d. body armor protects them from being shot with arrows..

the fewer movies bit is silly

nope sorry I am not underestimating the s.h.i.e.l.d. agents.. simply put they have no defense from being put down with arrows. it has been shown time and time again how they evade/dodge bullets. heck Oliver has been shown fast enough to stay with Slade and that was all throughout Season 2. Also Oliver alone has been shown to evade/dodge bullets and quickly fire kill shots..

Originally posted by FrothByte
What makes you think Oliver is way above their level?
his fights vs non fodders. Oliver is pretty close to Bucky's level and we saw what he did to Widow. May is good but I can't see her hanging with Ra's or Slade.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
lmao at body armor .... can you prove that the s.h.i.e.l.d. body armor protects them from being shot with arrows..

the fewer movies bit is silly

nope sorry I am not underestimating the s.h.i.e.l.d. agents.. simply put they have no defense from being put down with arrows. it has been shown time and time again how they evade/dodge bullets. heck Oliver has been shown fast enough to stay with Slade and that was all throughout Season 2. Also Oliver alone has been shown to evade/dodge bullets and quickly fire kill shots..

Coulson has been shot in his body armor before I believe and it saved him. Nick Fury has as well.

All of them dodge bullets to a degree. May and Ward also took on a couple of people imbued with Asgardian berserker strength and did pretty decently.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Coulson has been shot in his body armor before I believe and it saved him. Nick Fury has as well.

All of them dodge bullets to a degree. May and Ward also took on a couple of people imbued with Asgardian berserker strength and did pretty decently.

so.. the person used arrows against them??

May and Ward suck.... can they dodge arrows as easily as Ollie and company can dodge bullets????

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
so.. the person used arrows against them??

May and Ward suck.... can they dodge arrows as easily as Ollie and company can dodge bullets????

They dodge bullets which travel faster than arrows so why not? Besides, you're making it seem like Ollie is some kind of bullet timer. He's not. Stop making it seem like it. Ollie has been tagged before.

And no, the SHIELD agents were not shot by arrows but body armor is still better than no body armor.

And I reiterate again: Ward and May usually are more efficient at taking out fodder than Oliver is. So I don't see where you get this notion that Ollie is so far above them.

Because of the skill shown in take downs and non-fodder. Honestly, I'm a marvel guy and I'm not sure how you can compare the agents to Ollie... Even DD would be owned by GA

Daredevil was having trouble with mooks and all but lost to Nobu. I don't think that's a fair comparison for the agents or Oliver.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Because of the skill shown in take downs and non-fodder. Honestly, I'm a marvel guy and I'm not sure how you can compare the agents to Ollie... Even DD would be owned by GA

Guess I'm not as impressed with Ollie as you are. Don't get me wrong, he's definitely a good fighter, but not that much above Ward or May. For all of his nice complex and acrobatic moves he doesn't take out opponents quite as effectively as Ward, who regularly breaks fingers and busts knee caps as part of his move list.

How come Quake doesn't get her powers?

Originally posted by KingD19
How come Quake doesn't get her powers?
She would easily solo.

I mean I know. Just figured it was kinda skewed since without her power Sky is good but not great, but Canary is pretty good without them and has an edge in the fight due to her scream.

Ollie went toe to toe with Flash...don't see any SHIELD agents matching that.

Originally posted by FrothByte
They dodge bullets which travel faster than arrows so why not? Besides, you're making it seem like Ollie is some kind of bullet timer. He's not. Stop making it seem like it. Ollie has been tagged before.

And no, the SHIELD agents were not shot by arrows but body armor is still better than no body armor.

And I reiterate again: Ward and May usually are more efficient at taking out fodder than Oliver is. So I don't see where you get this notion that Ollie is so far above them.

do u need a roll of toilet paper to wipe your tears away??? and yet when Ollie was tagged , did he or did he not get back up????

oh Ollie is MOUNT OLYMPUS compared to those posers...

oh and still where is your proof that their body armor can withstand arrows being shoved up where the sun don't shine????

do not be a dodger lover and answer the question,, it isn't that hard for you to answer

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Ollie went toe to toe with Flash...don't see any SHIELD agents matching that.

Let's not make it seem more impressive than it was. With prep he lasted for a bit, and landed hits, but Barry gets tagged by slower people all the time. And his hits are pretty pathetic considering how fast he's going when he lands one.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
do u need a roll of toilet paper to wipe your tears away??? and yet when Ollie was tagged , did he or did he not get back up????

oh Ollie is MOUNT OLYMPUS compared to those posers...

oh and still where is your proof that their body armor can withstand arrows being shoved up where the sun don't shine????

do not be a dodger lover and answer the question,, it isn't that hard for you to answer

Wow, what's with all this hostility?

A bullet proof vest will not stop a direct hit from an arrow, that's not what it was made for. But it will stop a glancing hit. On the other hand, a glancing hit from an icer seems enough to knockout the target. Meaning the Arrow team needs to make sure they either hit where there's no armor or make sure it's a direct hit against the armor whereas AOS just needs to hit their target.

Now I answered your question, show me what kind of protection the Arrow team has against icers?

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Ollie went toe to toe with Flash...don't see any SHIELD agents matching that.

Ollie had a lot of prep for that, was able to choose a location and rig it beforehand, and was fighting a mentally unstable Flash. And even then he wasn't doing that well.

The top SHIELD agents on the team can definitely match that as long as they're given the same amount of prep.

Originally posted by KingD19
I mean I know. Just figured it was kinda skewed since without her power Sky is good but not great, but Canary is pretty good without them and has an edge in the fight due to her scream.

This is how good Skye is without her powers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hReYNlIoIWE

From what I can tell, Canary is nowhere near as good. She still regularly gets hit when facing multiple opponents.

Originally posted by FrothByte
This is how good Skye is without her powers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hReYNlIoIWE

From what I can tell, Canary is nowhere near as good. She still regularly gets hit when facing multiple opponents.


I'd like to mention that it was pretty cool how Skye's actress didn't use a stunt double. Not that it means anything for this match.

BTW which Canary are you referring too?