Originally posted by carver9
I said a long time ago that it was dumb to change characters and to stick with who we had. It was you all that went against this. I thought that was the deal from the beginning...keep who we had. It was you and PG that attacked me when I said it wasn't smart to switch up characters.
Did you say that....AFTER THE TOURNEY STARTED????
Page 15 of this thread. Before we started, it was the rule. So GTFO with that.
That said, I agree with PG. We shall wait till the others end.
You should never have agreed to start earlier, though. I spent time and effort keeping the momentum going, and PG knows my OP has been entered, BASED ON OUR AGREEMENT OF A FRIDAY START, WHICH YOU SUGGESTED.
So, it shows that CARVER was the one who wanted to start early:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver.Meet me.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I worked on my write up for you last night just in case I won. I need a little more time but I'm ready.
PG then says its ok to redraft:
Originally posted by psycho gundam
You can both re-draft. Scoobless' characters are also available if you want
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think we should redraft tbh. We should all stick with who we have. Only fair imo.
THAT'S when you started kicking off. A long time ago? Try page 30 of this thread. Meanwhile, on Page 15:
Originally posted by psycho gundam
You can redraft between rounds and the characters of fallen competitors are up for grabs (minus the Carver vs Scoob "round"😉
So yeah, hush about saying 'a long time ago that it was dumb'.
Moreover, check the attachment to this post. Carver was the one pushing for an earlier BZ. PG said we could redraft, Carver then suggested Friday, making ME run around collecting scans and thinking up strategies, all for a wasted effort because he has suddenly turned cowardly. Am happy to BZ him still, but he:
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[*]Has ZERO excuse to not know redrafts were possible
[*]****ed me over by making me think Friday was the deadline.
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So yeah, excuse me for wanting to keep the momentum going in this tourney, but I wasn't the one who wanted to start early, I wasn;t the one who said it was now OK to redraft, I actually spent time and effort sending my OP in on time - and this happens.
I had a post ready as well for your previous team and told you this but you switched out your entire squad which made my post irrelevant. I did not fuss about it... I went with the flow. Don't understand why you are upset about this when one I never chose anyone, 2. I had a post ready to put up in reply to your previous team, and 3. I didn't fuss at all about you making my post irrelevant that I took the time to type.
Originally posted by carver9
I had a post ready as well for your previous team and told you this but you switched out your entire squad which made my post irrelevant. I did not fuss about it... I went with the flow. Don't understand why you are upset about this when one I never chose anyone, 2. I had a post ready to put up in reply to your previous team, and 3. I didn't fuss at all about you making my post irrelevant that I took the time to type.
You don't understand???
I told you on Friday the 13th that there was the extremely distinct possibility I would be redrafting:
So yes, I made your post irrelevant: but it was your own stupidity for writing an OP when you have no idea who you are facing. You knew the rules of the BZ: we could redraft. It was on page 15 of this thread.
Then, you tell me Friday is when we start our own BZ. I finalise my draft beforehand. You don't say anything then. In fact, you ENCOURAGE me to keep swapping out:
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...look at Darksaint. I love it.
Originally posted by carver9
Loving it. Keep swapping.
Friday, the day our BZ starts, you say nothing.
SATURDAY, all of a sudden, you start making excuses. You were drunk (wut??). I made loads of redrafts (which you encouraged). Vulcan is suddenly Mid Herald (wut??). Bizarro is High (uhuh). We should wait (despite it being YOUR idea to start early). We should never have redrafted (we knew this from Day 1 of the tourney).
Strangely, you were pretty A-OK with me redrafting, and was still on for Friday:
http://s5.postimg.org/rw1ysi4uv/cv3.jpg
As far as I'm concerned, I've won our BZ. Everyone can see you're running scared.
My pet theory? You were waiting for darthgoober or whoever, to tell you how you could beat me. They came back to you, and said I was impossible to beat with your current draft. So you suddenly turned tail and ran.
Edit: PS - here is the message YOU sent to me, asking to start on Friday:
Lol...you were not instant messaging me during that point, you were instant messaging alcohol. Not explaining this again. Let's wait until the other contestants are done so that they can get fair picks as well. Trust me Dark, you'll be ok. If this was so huge an issue, we should've stayed with our original team.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you were not instant messaging me during that point, you were instant messaging alcohol. Not explaining this again. Let's wait until the other contestants are done so that they can get fair picks as well. Trust me Dark, you'll be ok. If this was so huge an issue, we should've stayed with our original team.
You do know there are timestamps, right? And that all the times displayed on my PMs are GMT.
So taking off 5 or so hours....you're telling me that you were drunk at 6- 9am or so in the morning on a weekday?
OK.
Its a huge issue - because you made it an issue AFTER our match was supposed to start. THAT is why I'm making a big deal out of this. you were fine with everything - up until Saturday.
Did Darth come back to you and say he couldn't do this match as well?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Leo's right. It's only fair to wait till Decter/Blair & Beatboks/Smurph is complete so that a fair grab at the characters is established, including Scoobless, LoB & even Abhilegend's characters.Smurph/Beatboks is almost done and Blair/Decter should pick up again soon
Ha, and did PG post that apropos of nothing?
Originally posted by carver9
Ok...I'll send mine tomorrow buddy. Enjoy your weekend with your future...we have plenty of time for me to win this BZ.
Originally posted by carver9
Got a question...I was thinking about this while writing my write up. Trinity Bizarro is easily High Herald(as DS himself pointed out his guy is stronger than Superman, capable of outspeeding WW and breaking her lasso), and Omega level Vulcan should be at least Mid herald. Does anyone disagree with this (minus Darksaint) or am I overthinking this?
Originally posted by carver9
👆@Darksaint...
2 things DS. The difference between WW and Bizarro is that while WW has faster reflexes than Supes, that's all she has on him. The guy you want is all around more powerful than Supes(one of the 3 top high heralds). Also, Doom IS mid... I had to draft him as such despite his placement on the tiers thread.
Originally posted by carver9
Trinity Bizarro wasn't the one listed in the tiers thread, and wasn't the one that was originally drafted(it's an amendment being made now). And Vulcan from the tiers thread was the non omega version and he was ranked before Vulcan thrashed Black Bolt and Warlock. We didn't go over every person's placement on the tiers thread at the outset of this thing and this is a redraft period so calling stuff into question now should be fine. If he want's to make the case that WW is a high herald now that's fine, I certainly won't hold it against him.As for Bizarro not stacking up feat for feat with Supes, neither does Thanos... can I switch out for him?
Originally posted by carver9
I think I'm switching my peeps. I should have my decision tonight.
Originally posted by carver9
I was intoxicated when we first discussed that and when I realized the next day what I said, I just went with the flow. I didn't get the chance to change anything or think about changing anything. With that said, you changed your team 5 times...it is only fair that I at least get ONE time to change my picks. Ya know, since you did change your team consistently after your win against LOB. I didn't fuss not one time when you changed your team consistently to fit mine. At least give me the chance to do the same. Complainer.
Originally posted by carver9
I said a long time ago that it was dumb to change characters and to stick with who we had. It was you all that went against this. I thought that was the deal from the beginning...keep who we had. It was you and PG that attacked me when I said it wasn't smart to switch up characters.
Admit it. You done messed up.
Originally posted by Decter
I would say randomize the second round after everyone picks. That way the remaining four still don't know who to counter draft and therefore make it somewhat even.And with that last round I would say secret drafts that are sent to PG
That...makes no sense. Which notable tournament do you know of has randomised selections during the semi-finals?
Then how would we know if we've both chosen Magneto, for example?
People started counter-drafting against me with Fantomex. It just adds to the constant jockeying for strategic advantage.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If DarthGoober is telling you what to say and do, and fighting the BZ through you, surely he should come out in the open and give his opinion, no?
He isn't involved in my BZ at all though. That was never the case. I asked him for scans along with a couple of other people. I wanted to forfeit, you all kept me here. Stop whining and move on.
This is where I got every scan I posted about both Wonder Woman and Doom.
https://m.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/3g9kaa/respect_dr_doom_marvel_616/
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t495216.html
https://m.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2xbof5/respect_wonder_woman_pre52/
