MID-HERALD TOURNAMENT DISCUSSION

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Are you thinking about a new draft choice?

Ok.

I seem like I'm rushing, but carv and I did agree in PMs to start on Fri.

I'll post something on Sunday. Sorry for the delay - birthday shenanigans.

Got a question...I was thinking about this while writing my write up. Trinity Bizarro is easily High Herald(as DS himself pointed out his guy is stronger than Superman, capable of outspeeding WW and breaking her lasso), and Omega level Vulcan should be at least Mid herald. Does anyone disagree with this (minus Darksaint) or am I overthinking this?

lol i'm thinking it's a little too late to be calling the pick into question....

Originally posted by carver9
Got a question...I was thinking about this while writing my write up. Trinity Bizarro is easily High Herald(as DS himself pointed out his guy is stronger than Superman, capable of outspeeding WW and breaking her lasso), and Omega level Vulcan should be at least Mid herald. Does anyone disagree with this (minus Darksaint) or am I overthinking this?
Poker isn't your game

Originally posted by carver9
Got a question...I was thinking about this while writing my write up. Trinity Bizarro is easily High Herald(as DS himself pointed out his guy is stronger than Superman, capable of outspeeding WW and breaking her lasso), and Omega level Vulcan should be at least Mid herald. Does anyone disagree with this (minus Darksaint) or am I overthinking this?

You CONGRATULATED dimwitted, Darksaint, when I was ROBBED with OMEGA level Vulcan.

NOW DEAL WITH YOUR LIES, YOU FILTHY, GAMMITE!!!

If you battlezoned Carver he'd be the favorite, you know

Originally posted by psycho gundam
If you battlezoned Carver he'd be the favorite, you know

Favored to LOSE , yes!

Originally posted by carver9
am I overthinking this?

I doubt you'll ever be in danger of that.

Got a question...I was thinking about this while writing my write up. Wonder Woman is easily High Herald(as Carver himself pointed out his guy is faster than Superman, capable of outspeeding Zoom), and Doom should be at least Mid herald. Does anyone disagree with this (minus Carver) or am I overthinking this?

Doom is Mid, WW is Mid, Vulcan could be Mid, Bizarro... should probably be in the same tier as Superman.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol i'm thinking it's a little too late to be calling the pick into question....

Match hasn't started yet...
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Np. As long as it's not a dead debate

It's not, just having a few life things get in the way for the moment, it's all still on.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Doom is Mid, WW is Mid, Vulcan could be Mid, Bizarro... should probably be in the same tier as Superman.

Match hasn't started yet...

It's not, just having a few life things get in the way for the moment, it's all still on.

👆

@Darksaint...

2 things DS. The difference between WW and Bizarro is that while WW has faster reflexes than Supes, that's all she has on him. The guy you want is all around more powerful than Supes(one of the 3 top high heralds). Also, Doom IS mid... I had to draft him as such despite his placement on the tiers thread.

Trinity Bizrro - Mid
Vulcan - Low

It's to late in the game to move Vulcan up.

I disagree here. First, the tier list was posted on the very first page, there was plenty enough time for objections and disagreements. Also, WonderWoman is in my eyes a High Herald, Dr. Doom can be seen as Mid to High Herald by abilitites and feats. Bizarro is a notch below Superman, his powerset might seem to be on par but his intelligence is what makes him Mid Herald at best. Vulcan, I dunno.

Anyway that's my input, let's spill blood!

Feat for Feat
Bizarro does not stack up Superman.

And it's not as if you don't have some powerful flying bricks up for grabs. Black Adam is up for grabs as a Mid tier.

I would consider options.

Trinity Bizarro wasn't the one listed in the tiers thread, and wasn't the one that was originally drafted(it's an amendment being made now). And Vulcan from the tiers thread was the non omega version and he was ranked before Vulcan thrashed Black Bolt and Warlock. We didn't go over every person's placement on the tiers thread at the outset of this thing and this is a redraft period so calling stuff into question now should be fine. If he want's to make the case that WW is a high herald now that's fine, I certainly won't hold it against him.

As for Bizarro not stacking up feat for feat with Supes, neither does Thanos... can I switch out for him?

True, Bizarro Trinity is extremely weak to energy attacks.....Batman hurt hum, Superman chopped his hand off, after all.

Almost every one of the High Heralds listed in the tier thread can take him out.

At no point was Trinity Bizarro > Superman. So that's firmly Mid.

Superman treated him like a child, after all. HV blew his hand up.

BRB, Black Adam, Zod...I personally don't see the case for Bizarro as HH. He's in some really good company there at mid, and each tier is a range of power levels. Not everyone is equivalent. Vulcan as mid probably has a little more traction, imo, but mage Warlock was a bit of a wuss (the Warlock in the tiers is classic version), and he didn't exactly thrash BB, yeah? He's got a range of showings even at Omega level, and if those are his best, it's a bit hard to say definitively. Maybe he should be at mid, but a lot of this is splitting hairs.