Originally posted by carthage
I think that might've been the fire from the Chiss cannons though, probably not the turbolasers.
Then why do people refer to them as turbolasers? KEK. I don't actually see how people confuse laser canons, and turbolasers with each other given the MASSIVE difference between the firepower. One can raze a planet with repeated shots; the other prolly can't a freaking city.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
@Neph:Yet... Turbolasers have completely shagged planets with continues blast power and tear through shields that no sell nukes, and canotically withstand teratons of force.
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Oh shit, they were slagging the planet where Jacen and Jaina were fighting????
Oh no wait, they weren't. 😐
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
. One can raze a planet with repeated shots; the other prolly can't a freaking city.
Wedge fired shots from his quad lasers/cannons into oncoming Vong during the Battle of Borleias in NJO Rebel Dream and literally exploded/reduced them to paste. Vitiate's lightning can't even do that to non force sensitives.
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That is shitty logic. You are expecting such magnitude of gore in the game? You shouldn't. Such details are expected in a novel, not a game that is played by children.
In a novel, a casual burst of Force Lightning from Darth Nyriss reduced two guards to charred husks (burned them beyond recognition). Now imagine, what Valkorion's Force Lightning would do to guards.
Originally posted by carthage
He was in motion when the explosions were coming his way, and he deflected them with his saber not palmed them. He wast taking the full brunt of the blast with his lightsaber (not barrier), and having his boots driven into the ground. Compared to Caedus facing the full bront of a "carpet of death" that hurled twenty bolts a square meter, and he deflected them with more ease than Jaina, Zekk, or Vader who could deflect them but were getting knocked off course and with more effort on their part. Good feat for Vader, but Caedus was performed with undeniably more ease (before his prime)
Arcann was crushed by pillars and likely expended some energy stomping the Hero. The fact he could even deflect his lightning while likely tired from his duel/surviving being crushed is an amazing feat for him. I'm not sure how that detracts from Caedus's feat? Good for Arcann- at full power he could perform a lot better and possibly similar to Caedus
Which is why his lightning can't cause as much damage as lasers, when even a bolt can reduce non force sensitives to paste. Ok. I get it it can kill non force sensitives and leave no damage to their bodies and drop fodder Zakuul knights. Great feat for Vitiate but its still not as strong as what you posted for Vader and numerous examples of cannon fire blowing up ships/atomizing Vong etc for cannonfire/turbolasers. Valkorion has a number of ways to defeat Caedus (with effort) via telekinesis, or more powerful attacks he has in his arsenal.
Not sure why its hard to believe he isn't as godlike based off of killing non force sensitives and lightning that can be deflected or dodged. Where did it actually blow up ships as well on contact?
Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh shit, they were slagging the planet where Jacen and Jaina were fighting????
LAL.
My point is they have shown that way in other sources, such as novels and objective statements made in sourcebooks. This is undeniable. If they were Turbolasers that's the kind of power they canonically pack, period. What was shown in the book can easily be written off as an inconsistency, or the writer just not caring about showing it's collateral damage.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
LAL.My point is they have shown that way in other sources, such as novels and objective statements made in sourcebooks. This is undeniable. If they were Turbolasers that's the kind of power they canonically pack, period. What was shown in the book can easily be written off as an inconsistency, or the writer just not caring about showing it's collateral damage.
Except they specifically describe its collateral damage, so no. I deny that those lasers had more power than what the were explicitly shown to have. Like has been said, turbolaser fire is immensely variable. Obviously the cannon's of a capital ship are going to be a little different than that of a freighter. The lasers in the book were also clearly depicted as being about scattered fire, which could be why they weren't as individually powerful.
Originally posted by carthage
I think its some confusion from the text, it mentions them deflecting cannonfire but at the same time turbolasers are going off.
I can't get my hands on the book at the moment - so do you have the quote laying around somewhere? I would like to give it another read before I debate further.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
I can't get my hands on the book at the moment - so do you have the quote laying around somewhere? I would like to give it another read before I debate further.
Jaina confirms he deflected them in Legacy of the Force Revelation.
Whelp, Neph. This was a nice red herring, but the Turbolaser showing is completely unrelated to the instance we're currently arguing. So yeah - since nothing actually contradicts Jaina's statements at all, then him deflecting Gigatons still stands.
Before we argue different levels of Turbolasers, lets not. Turbolasers are typically on Capital ships and such, and they commonly tear through the shields of other ships that completely no-sell nuke level shit, so there is that. 👆
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Whelp, Neph. This was a nice red herring, but the Turbolaser showing is completely unrelated to the instance we're currently arguing. So yeah - since nothing actually contradicts Jaina's statements at all, then him deflecting Gigatons still stands.Before we argue different levels of Turbolasers, lets not. Turbolasers are typically on Capital ships and such, and they commonly tear through the shields of other ships that completely no-sell nuke level shit, so there is that. 👆
Last I recall, they can also completely obliterate asteroids.
Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Whelp, Neph. This was a nice red herring, but the Turbolaser showing is completely unrelated to the instance we're currently arguing. So yeah - since nothing actually contradicts Jaina's statements at all, then him deflecting Gigatons still stands.Before we argue different levels of Turbolasers, lets not. Turbolasers are typically on Capital ships and such, and they commonly tear through the shields of other ships that completely no-sell nuke level shit, so there is that. 👆
Turbolasers are used in both land-based defenses and Starships.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Turbolasers significantly vary in firepower aspects. You cannot avoid this fact.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Turbolasers are used in both land-based defenses and Starships.
The latter, yes - the former? No. Starships carry laser-canons. Not Turbolasers, which dwarf the former by a significant degree.