Originally posted by Zack M
Agree to disagree. Spidey is certainly above Batman, but not these 2 put together.
Spider-Man fought the sinister six many, many times. He'll do just fine against Deathstroke and Batman.
If Batman and Deathstroke work together and use some prep, than it's another story.
But in a random encounter with basic knowledge of each other ? I don't see how they will even touch him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So it's a Colossus feat - a feat of his control.Nothing to do with Spidey.
If Tyson punches a kid, whilst holding back, and I punch a second kid...the result is still the same, Tyson was obv holding back more than I was - but it has NOTHING to do with the kid's durability.
Colossus was unsure if he was holding back. He said that he didn't know if he wanted to hurt someone. He was unsure.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdyhe's not fast enough to dodge webs but easily dodges/deflects bullets and lasers. Give me a break.
Let's ignore that Spider-Man has webbed up half of the Marvel Universe without much trouble.Spider-Man has very, very rarely trouble hitting somebody with his webs. Slade is simply not fast enough to dodge webbing. How can you dodge something like that when Spider-Man is bouncing all over the place ? It's not like Spider-Man is slowly taking aim.
But even if he could dodge Spider-Mans webs - I'm being very generous here - I sincerely doubt that he could do it again.
At the end of the day Slade himself is gonna be hard for Pete to put down with his healing factor, armor, reaction time, etc.
Originally posted by namorsubby
he's not fast enough to dodge webs but easily dodges/deflects bullets and lasers. Give me a break.At the end of the day Slade himself is gonna be hard for Pete to put down with his healing factor, armor, reaction time, etc.
2. When somebody points a gun at you, you can start to dodge. Spider-Man doesn't point a gun, he jumps around in a very fast way and there's now way of telling when or if he'll be using his webs.
It's not rocket science.
At the end of the day Slade himself is gonna be hard for Pete to put down with his healing factor, armor, reaction time, etc.
Slade COULD be webbed...but he also could easily dodge them. He doesn't evade gunfire by timing the opponents aim like bruce. He dodges them because he's that fast. If you wanna suggest that Slade can deflect lasers with a sword but can't evade spidermans web then be my guest. Just don't expect me to believe you.
Originally posted by Magnon
*Sigh.* Please read what DarkSaint85 said.At best, bringing up Phoenix-Colossus vs. Spider-Man was completely irrelevant to this thread since it's only a feat for Colossus; to his ability to control his power (as DS85 argued).
Again, NOT THE POINT I ARGUED. I brought it up because it was phoenix powered colossus. The amount he was holding back is purely unmeasurable. It could have been still more than enough to atomize spider-man, because each of those guys was powerful enough to stomp Thor like a child. They wouldn't even include the scene if he was hitting with the force of Aunt may.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I really really doubt it.And I'm not underestimating Slade, I realize that, on his best day, he can be a threat to Spider-Man. But he needs prep in order to stand a chance.
Spider-Man still remains faster, stronger, at least as durable, more agile, has an inbuilt alarm system and has his nigh unbreakable webs.
One haymaker of Spider-Man, the one he keeps for Rhino or Hulk or Morlun, will probably be enough.
Maybe we should just ignore all the times he struggles against Street levelers.
I wonder how Captain America or Daredevil ever hit him?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Maybe we should just ignore all the times he struggles against Street levelers.I wonder how Captain America or Daredevil ever hit him?
Forum rules: everybody - including Spider-Man - is at the height of their abilities. That means the gloves are off, no holding back, no quips, no ignoring of the spider-sense to make the fight more interesting.
Besides, Spider-Man is a very known character in the Marvel Universe, some people have the advantage of knowing him and how to deal with him. Deathstroke and Batman don't have that luxury.
Finally, CA >> Batman and CA >> Deathstroke.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I really really doubt it.And I'm not underestimating Slade, I realize that, on his best day, he can be a threat to Spider-Man. But he needs prep in order to stand a chance.
Spider-Man still remains faster, stronger, at least as durable, more agile, has an inbuilt alarm system and has his nigh unbreakable webs.
One haymaker of Spider-Man, the one he keeps for Rhino or Hulk or Morlun, will probably be enough.
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Agreed. Spider-Man still shit stomps here.
Originally posted by Kid Kurdyhes not as "durable" due to Slades armor and healing factor. Spidermans webs are not nigh unbreakable. Slade could cut them, blast them with his staff, or move out of the way. People place Slade at a certain level because of his lower end feats in which he struggles with peak streets(just like peter) but fail to realize almost all the time those fights have extinuating circumstances and are inconclusive, meaning they dont fight until KO or kill. He has also straight up beat down alot of elite peaks effortlessly several times, including bruce and dick. Dick said himself slade could kill him without breaking a sweat. He toyed with cassandra. Hes always focused on a mission not them. Hes stated himself that he couldve easily killed the titans but had an alternative motive for fighting them which was to give his offspring a family. Even so hes embarrassed them all in close combat multiple times and several other teams. Idk why people act as if these showings dont exist, but they do. It would be literally impossible for peak human characters to beat Slade under kill/ko conditions and difficult for even spiderman. Ww was pissed off smacking slade around across her island with him not even fighting back and it still took some time to ko him. He had a huge sub dropped on his head which exploded over a large area and still fought a very strong opponent and won. He took a beating from lobo. Hes been impaled several times and continued to fight. Spidey isnt even going to try to kill him and hes not going to use anything by blunt force and/or webbing. It be a good fight that slade could win alone on occasion. Add bruce into the mix and spidey barely slides by with a very slim majority imo barring a cisless situation.
I really really doubt it.And I'm not underestimating Slade, I realize that, on his best day, he can be a threat to Spider-Man. But he needs prep in order to stand a chance.
Spider-Man still remains faster, stronger, at least as durable, more agile, has an inbuilt alarm system and has his nigh unbreakable webs.
One haymaker of Spider-Man, the one he keeps for Rhino or Hulk or Morlun, will probably be enough.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
W. Thing almost killed Pete with a one-shot...Juggs couldn't throw a proper punch with Parker on his back.
I said survived right? And the Juggernaut was hitting him over and over again. With that much strength the damage stacks up.
also, since Spider-man learned Spider-fu, his "issues" with martial artists haven't really been an issue at all.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
I said survived right? And the Juggernaut was hitting him over and over again. With that much strength the damage stacks up.also, since Spider-man learned Spider-fu, his "issues" with martial artists haven't really been an issue at all.
Jarvis survived Mister Hyde...
Truly horrible scene, btw. Loved it how good ol' Rhino said to the Wrecking Crew that they just stood by and did nothing when Hyde was massacring Jarvis for no reason at all. While it was weird to see Rhino out of all people beat the living shit out of those useless Thor villains, it definitely felt like... justice 😛 Only too bad it took so many years for someone with balls to appear and act.
